Thursday, September 29, 2005

Benefits of criticizing Quixtar

I have been asked many times "What do you gain by bashing Quixtar?". Stupid question eh! I can pick my ass or pee in the wind, what do you care? I'm not jumping you on the malls or harassing my relatives to see the plan. I write a blog where you come yourself.

Who will ask such a stupid question? You got it. My uplines and every other IBO.

So here are the fringe benefits:
  • My writing improved, helping my career big time.
  • Grasped emerging technologies like Blogs, Forums etc.
  • I get to know Qblog. A little, I must add. You’ll never know him even if you do. You dunno Nunzio *. Learned lot from him e.g. phpBB, Skype, Smarty, Wiki, podcasts, mambo etc. I free lance some clients and configured forum and Wiki for them. I have my own forum and moved personal site on mambo. I may not learn all these things if I didn’t know him.
  • Joined an online community. I saw ad filled forums all the time but quixtarBlog forum is the one I love.
  • He contributed on multi some level in helping me see how cool MAC and open source is.
  • I get to know some really cool guys, gals, IBOs and dawgs.
  • I understand how stupid MLM is and how vulnerable one can be when prospected by friends.
  • A good online activity, other than playing games of course!
* You dunno Nunzio

Nunzio is a professional wrestler who plays italian. A friend of mine recently saw his WCW video where he makes this gesture and screams "YOU DUNNO NUNZIO". My friend got hooked! Every other hour he shouts "YOU DUNNO NUNZIO". His roomate told us he once screamed in his sleep "YOU DUNNO NUNZIO".

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Friday, September 23, 2005

Taking a break

Holla folks, I was absent for a week, busy at work. Plus football! I won't be posting often in football season. And you gotta play Madden 2004 if you love America! If you haven't played it or ESPN football, you must hate freedom.

Also, some other projects e.g. a forum and Project World Improvement needs work. Specially the forum. I was frustrated how few decent computer forums are out there. I'm currently learning Dot Net and I'll post a step by step learning guide from ASP classic to ASP.Net.

Project World Improvement has a huge potential as well. More than niche market of Quixtar blogs. I have so much to say there. World sucks, Imran to rescue.

Lately we are discovering some blogs written by Quixtar employees that are not retarded. What better way to shut up critics than being......normal? Beth Dornan's blog is great too. She looks like those colleagues who insists on hugging at most awkword moments, like in front of your dad. I have no idea why!! And look at this post. A British guy capable of great writing!

Some naval gazing retards are still there. Critbots gotta eat, right?

Anyways, thanks for keeping the discussion alive. Anonymous debating anonymous, always a pleasure. How hard it is to add a nick at the end of your message?

China and Amway

Something to debate: Devos and Co. pressured Bush and Co. to do business with China. Amway in China is their biggest hope. China! All cruel labour and stuff (where are you, right wing folks?). China also got some thing out of that deal. You don't expect them to just bow and kiss Uncle SAM, do you? They will be exporting more crapy and cheap products here. Think about it, $5K new car, and US auto industry is dead.

Who will be responcible for it?

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Saturday, September 17, 2005

How to write a good blog

I'm getting a lot of traffic lately so I must be doing something right. Time to play Guru!

There are million other articles on this topic. As always, I don't give a rat's ass. There! Lesson number one. Write whatever you want, and don't give a damn if its already written.

Write Original

Sometimes, I publish stuff written by others. I was surprised to see my posts get more traffic / comments than those. Obviously, I publish other's content when its real good. So why is that? Because you peeps have already read other's content, ya savages!

In a nut shell, my traffic is directly proportional to the effort I put in. Make your post based on research, not exactly like it. Use hyperlinks and quotes.

Be brief

Write tight, for the love of God. I revise each post many times and keep making it tighter. Forum posters, are you listening? I don't read blogs and forum posts that could be shorter. Spell check is a must.

Write daily

Or every other day. Be consistent. Only way to get steady traffic and regualr readers. How do you expect traffic otherwise? Getting co-authors is a good idea in hectic days.

Blog Hygiene

Keep your blog clean. Don't clutter it with too much gadgets. And please don't go for a complex design if you are not a designer. Look at this idiot. He's a great guy and all but I can't read that mess blog. And it is much cleaner now!

Have a designer review your blog time to time. Running ads doesn't have to look ugly.


I just learned it. If you see track back installed in a blog, it means author expects to be notified when linked. Not having trackback in your blog is no excuse for not sending them to others.

Track back means you send a 'ping' to post you linked. That 'ping' can be sent either from
  • Trackback tool of your blog
  • External tool like haloscan.
This 'ping' will be stored in trackback section of that post. It will also have URL of your post. You can send trackback from static sites, even a forum post using haloscan!

Benefits of trackback
  • You link some one, and you automatically get linked back! Because your URL is showing up in trackback section of that blog. That means more traffic! Send some trackbacks to popular blogs and see traffic go crazy (Don't abuse it).
  • Instead of comments, you can have blog conversation via trackbacks!
  • You will sleep better.
Use pictures

Don't be too square! Use them time to time. But don't slaughter the design by using them too much.

Think of readers

Why are you blogging exactly? If you don't care about readers, you don't need a blog.


MLM Today has changed its template. Much better. All the jingles gone, content is prominent, thus more readable. I laud Dave Stone for embracing the first rule of web: visitor first. You write your blog for people to read right? And here is a kicker, lesser the jingles, more the people relate to you.

Yesterday I gave it a quick glance then (I was ass-busy), but some titles got registered, e.g. professional doing network marketing etc. These eye catchers were not so catchy in previous design. Now I have to go back and read it, D'oh!

I can't find a link where it says that end user decides in 4 seconds to read your site or leave it. Make best of these 4 seconds.

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Thursday, September 15, 2005

What do you OWN? Business owners?

Great post by Mike in The Quixtar Ego-Trap

There is no comparison between Quixtar and a traditional small business. Don't think for a second that you "own" or "run" anything when you hop on the Quixtar wagon. Think about it:

What do you sell? Whatever products are offered on the quixtar website.

What price do you sell them for? Whatever quixtar says it costs.

If quixtar decides to change their payment scheme or the bv of a particular product, what can you do about it? Nothing.

The whole "personal business" concept is completely based on a flimsy system that you have absolutely no control over. If quixtar changes the rules of the game, you have to just suck it up and go with it. And the notion that anyone working a regular job is just some average sucker is, well... disgusting. A regular job? You mean like firefighter? Doctor? Teacher? Construction worker?

Yeah, average. People with real jobs are the ones who create things. Do things. Contribute to society. They manufacture the products you peddle on your precious website for that matter.

What exactly is it that a Quixtar IBO contributes to the world? And don't regurgitate the whole "we change lives by showing people how to be finacially free" song and dance because its utter nonsense. The staggering number of people who make nothing doing Quixtar shows clearly that this is not the case. And even if it were, there is absolutely nothing being created, produced or contributed to society. "Real" jobs must exist for your silly little dream world to exist... which it doesn't. Well, unless of course you are one of the few who have been raking in piles of money selling training manuals, coaching seminars, videos, motivational tapes and all that other "optional, but neccissary" material...

The sad thing is, the Quixtar recruiting technique is much like that of the military, with the exception that the military actually does provide a service and a career. What Quixtar and the military have in common is that they tend to look toward the less educated for recruitment. The logic being, those with less education have less opportunities for succeessful careers. This means that a less educated person stands a better chance of seeing the military as a beneficial move in their life.

Quixtar's motive is much different. The motivation of Quixtar to go after the less educated rests on the assumption that those with less education will ask less questions. They will likely be pursuaded more easily by the thought of making huge sums of money due to the fact that they likely have very little of it. The less educated will be less likely to think about the more philosophical "big picture" ideas when assesing the validity of the business. Likewise, the less educated will be more likey to be impressed with the flashy bright lights and smoke machines at the pep rallies. They will almost always be the ones falling for the simplistic plattitudes that are void of any substantive information about the business. They won't ask any pointed questions about the innerworkings of the Quixtar corporation or even about day to day business activity. They won't think about the macroeconomic implications of such a flawed business model, because they probably don't know what macroeconomic means...

In short, look at most of the people involved with Quixtar. This is a classic cult-like situation where weak minded people buy into an organization that proceeds to brainwash them from day one. They are taught that anyone who says anything negative about the organization is simply a loser and a liar. If you have ever seen footage of these Quixtar conventions and then looked at a communist rally from the Stalin years, the similarities are shocking.

Brainwashing is brainwashing... people either leave the cult, or drink the cool aid and die.

I'm sure some Quixtar apologist is going to follow this up with some talking points about how Quixtar is his salvation and that I am just some average person who will never amount to anyhthing. He'll likely go on and on, full of spelling and grammar errors about how I couldn't make it in Quixtar and that negative people never amount to anything...

Well to that person let me simply ask: How much money have you profited from Quixtar?

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Riddle me this, batman

RetiredInSomniac posted in Britt World Wide Investigated
I actually read the whole blog. I've actually done the research unlike most people on the blog I assume. Now one of the biggest misconceptions is that quixtar is responsible for the IBO's that make faulty promises. The truth is that there are alot of con people out there that con people into believing that its easy to become rich in quixtar and amway and there are also people that make more money in selling merchandise than making money selling products. Blame the people making claims and don't blame the tool they use to con people. Now if you actually check the quixtar website try and find anywhere on that site that says buy tapes, books and attend conferences. When you want info go to the source and do your research.

Riddle me this batman, if Quixtar is not responsible for “faulty promises”, why can’t downline see upline’s LOS? Like upline can see downline’s LOS in LOS Manager of It could eliminate fake claims.

My upline (Ahmer Azam) used to say,
“It is sooo easy to build this business now. My group is moving 5 kits / day. If some body is not having major success, he must be screwing something big.”
If I could see his LOS, won’t it reveal the truth?

Don’t share crossline Diamond's LOS, but at least share LOS upto a certain upline pin within that group. Platinum or Diamond. Higher the better. It will have following benefits:
  • Less room for faulty promises
  • Eliminate pressure from uplines, so IBOs can build this business at their own pace.
  • Downline won’t feel rushed and insulted for not going diamond like yesterday.
  • It may open up their eyes to tool scam.
  • It will reveal majority will always be at the bottom levels of MLM structure and only way to make money at that level is retail.
Just a minor tweak in LOS manager of, share LOS of upline. This alone could solve a lot of problems. No major revamping. No booting of diamonds. Just a baby step toward openness.

Software solution eh! Geeks shall inherit the earth.

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Tuesday, September 13, 2005

Changes to the blog

Blog name change

Back to Quixtar Sucks from Quixtar, as MO saw it. Never liked the later. I did it when I discovered non-system IBOs. And my uplines were pissed and threatening me with lawsuits using my sponsor as a pawn.

But Quixtar Sucks. Not just suck suck, but a real good suck, mrrrpphh mubbble mubbble. Non-system IBOs are almost zero compared with system ones. Quixtar (Official Company Quixtar) is doing jack to promote them. They'd rather not listen, harass criticism, hide facts, fight lawsuits for kingpins and make big money. They knew the problem decades ago.

I laud them whenever I can, but they don't do much good.

Every one who has linked me may wanna update the link caption. Sorry for the trouble.

Word Verification

I was getting comment spam. You may turn it on in the comments section of blogger settings.

It's one of those helly lame boring trivial posts, but that's the life in the hml side of the blog.

Blogger Name Change

That's where you come in. I'm bored from the name "MO". I had to pick a pseudo-name in a hurry, for some personal reasons.

What should be my new name?

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Quixtar Playbook # 3

Successful cried posted in Random Observations
Imran, looks like your FT job is posting negative comments to this and other sites and could be the reason why you are poor and angry. Ignorance seems to be the true mark of why you are this way. one has ever become successful by complaining and putting others down. I truly feel really sorry for you.

Perhaps one day, if you are lucky enough, you can take some notes from a successful person and apply it to your life. Maybe then you will change your attitude and make something of yourself.

Or you shut us all up and post your tax return to this site so you can show us what you are really made of. My guess is that it will be quite laughable and we would all get much enjoyment out of it.

Looks like I pressed some right buttons! (read the thread) I'm neither poor nor angry. I am like Quixtar: 'Debt free' and 'still legal'.

You are reading books and taking notes. How is that working for ya?

I like making fun of you stupid brainwashed people. And you IBOs never cease to amaze me.

Let me try answering you in Tim's stlye:
Dear anonymous coward. You didn't argue with the points I raised. Instead you did what every other IBO does. Ad hominum personal attacks.

I may post my tax return. After all, I'm offering a business opportunity. Oh wait, No one in Quixtar is willing to do so. Hmmmm. I shouldn't do that if I want to be 'successful' like them. Apparently, they are the only one with a chance of 'success'. Instead, let me have an arsenal of insults ready for any one who dares to ask.

PS: It is my full time job to post comments. Pays well! Wanna do it?

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Sunday, September 11, 2005 not archiving

Has anyone else noticed is not archiving the any more?

He yanked off the Orrin dripping with integrity satire for sure. Therefore, yours truly is now archiving that site weekly. Some people keep an eye on quixtar PR blogs, I watch critics. There was, and now it is on my shoulders to keep you commie liberals straight. Why? Why me? Ok I accept, lets go!

Mysterious yanking off stuff is my pet peeve. Either put it on the web or don't. I understand at times content need to be updated. There are some general rules though.

It is author's right to pull off the stuff, similary I can archive any open site. You gotta do what you gotta do, I gotta do what I gotta do! Didn't we save sites for school projects?

Analyze THAT!

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Saturday, September 10, 2005

Quixtar return policy

I had great experience with Quixtar return policy. God knows I have returned shirts after washing them 3 times, and shit load of artistry (client orders). All they asked was packaging and invoice number. Time limit was six months then. Now 3 months, still not bad.

After I quit, calculated my losses and read and quixtarBlog, I realized that Quixtar "Opportunity" is scam, motivational organizations are blood suckers, my upline is a crook etc. and overall business model is 'negative' for the majority. But I always rated their customer service as number 1.

Few months ago I ordered Nutrilite Muscle fearlessly. I can return it so what the hell. I had to when I accidently saw Gelatin on label (not Halal). My stupidity, I didn't read the ingredients before ordering. I used 3 pills. No big deal, shipped it back. Following things happened:
  • No free return postage any more for Canada. Canada postage laws prohibited it, they said
  • Got reimbursed for postage on Credit Card instead.
  • Return package has to be insured. Insurance is not reimbursed I guess.
  • Didn't get the product re-imbursement! $37ish.
Mailing error perhaps? I emailed them, no answer. Maybe the poonani at Canada post screwed it. She was glaring at my MLM Narcotics shirt. She was desi so she could be IBO! Anyways, I didn't get reimbursed and I'm not buying from them again. At least I could be emailed the reason why they're not giving my money back.

Whatever, they got this post now. I get 80 hits per day, same as Quixtar Marketing manager and president of passport, so you can kiss this post.

What is your online shopping experience, other than Quixtar? Website, customer service, return, support?

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Friday, September 09, 2005

Whatcha gonna do Brother?

Whatcha gonna do when:

Webmania runs wild on you
Google spanks you
Cabbies make fun of you on TV
Communication goes online
Prospects blog their perceptions
Disgrunteled folks blow the horn
You ain't making much money, working your ass off
Your fired up downlines quitting
Products become more and more expensive
TV broadcast feature on you
Feds investigating you
People run hearing Quixtar
You gotta drive the miles, fuel goes high
You are always in debt
You ain't even making minimum wage

And you keep on doing the same thing......

Watcha gonna do brother, watcha gonna do?

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Tuesday, September 06, 2005

Fatwaa: MLM is forbidden in Islam

Bro, who asked me a question yesterday, today sent me following link which is from Islam Question & Answer, answered by Shaykh Muhammad Saalih al-Munajjid, the supervisor of this site.

Fatwa on pyramid marketing schemes

I'm publishing this whole article here. That site have given persmission.
Permission is granted to all to take material from this site, subject to the following two conditions: (1) Material used must be attributed to , (2) Material must be reproduced faithfully and without alteration or omission. And Allaah is the Source of strength.


The Standing Committee for Academic Research and Issuing Fatwas has received many questions about pyramid marketing companies such as the “Business” and “Hibbat al-Jazeerah” companies, whose work may be summed up as being the attempt to convince a person to buy a product on the basis that he will also convince others to buy; they in turn will convince others, and so on. The more levels of participants there are, the more the first person will gain in commission, reaching thousands of riyals. Every participant convinces others to join in return for a large commission, if he is successful in getting new customers to join his list of members. This is what is called pyramid marketing or network marketing.


Praise be to Allaah.

The Committee replied: This kind of dealing is haraam, because the purpose of this dealing is to earn commission, not to buy the product. The commission may reach tens of thousands, whilst the product is not worth more than a few hundred. Any smart person who is offered a choice between the two will choose the commission. Hence these companies rely on marketing and advertising of their product which emphasizes the size of the large commission which the participant can earn, and offers the incentive of a large profit in return for a small sum, which is the price of the product. The product marketed by such companies is merely a screen or a means of earning these commissions and profits. Because this commission is really the point of the transaction, it is haraam according to sharee’ah for several reasons:

1 – It involves riba of two types, riba al-fadl (involving exchange of goods of the same type but of different quantity) and riba al-nasi’ah (involving deferred payment of a larger amount than would be paid if it were paid immediately). The participant pays a small amount of money in order to gain a lot of money, in other words he pays cash for cash of a different amount and with deferred payment. This is the kind of riba that is forbidden according to the texts and to scholarly consensus. The product which the company sells to the agent is simply a screen for this transaction; it is not what the participant is seeking and it makes no difference to the ruling.

2 – It is a kind of gharar (ambiguous transaction) that is forbidden in sharee’ah, because the participant does not know whether he will be successful in finding the number of purchasers (participants) required or not. No matter how long pyramid or network marketing lasts, it must inevitably reach an end, and when a person joins the pyramid he does not know whether he will be in a higher level and thus make a profit, or in the lower levels and thus make a loss. The fact of the matter is that most of the members of the pyramid lose out, except for the few at the top. So what usually happens is loss, which is the case of all ambiguous transactions. One of two things may happen, and it is usually the one that is most feared. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) forbade ambiguous transactions, as was narrated by Muslim in his Saheeh.

3 – These transactions involve consuming people’s wealth unlawfully, because these contracts benefit no one but the companies and some participants whom the company encourages with the aim of tricking others. This is what is forbidden in the Qur’aan, where Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“O you who believe! Eat not up your property among yourselves unjustly” [al-Nisa’ 4:29]

4 – This transaction involves cheating, deceiving and tricking people, by showing the product as if that is the purpose of this transaction, when that is not the case, and by enticing them with the idea of large commission which people do not usually earn. This is the kind of deceit that is forbidden in sharee’ah. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever deceives us is not one of us.” Narrated by Muslim in his Saheeh. And the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The two parties to a transaction have the choice, so long as they have not parted. If they are sincere and open in their dealings, the transaction will be blessed for them, but if they lie and conceal anything, the blessing of their transaction will be erased.” Agreed upon.

With regard to the view that this transaction is a kind of brokerage, this is not true. Brokerage is a transaction whereby the broker receives payment in return for selling the product, whereas in network marketing the participant pays a fee in order to market the product. Brokerage means marketing the product in a real sense, unlike network marketing where the real aim is to market the transaction, not the product, so the participant markets to others who will market to others who will market to others and so on, unlike brokerage in which the broker markets the product to those who really want the product. The difference between the two is quite clear.

With regard to the view that the transaction is a kind of gift, this is also not true. Even if we accept that, not every gift is permissible according to sharee’ah. A gift given in return for a loan is riba. Hence ‘Abd-Allaah ibn Salaam said to Abu Burdah (may Allaah be pleased with them both): “You are in a land where riba is widespread among them. If you have some right over a man and he gives you a load of straw or a load of barley or a load of fodder, this is riba.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari in his Saheeh.

Gifts are subject to the rulings on the reason for which they are given. Hence the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, concerning the zakaat-collector who came and said: “This is for you and this is what was given to me as a gift”: “Why don’t you sit in the house of your father and mother and see whether you are given any gifts or not?” Agreed upon.

These commissions are only paid for the purpose of joining the network marketing scheme, no matter what names are given to them, whether they are called gifts or anything else. That does not change their nature or the ruling on them in the slightest.

It is worth mentioning that there are companies that have appeared in the market which follow the practices of network marketing or pyramid marketing, such as “Smartest Way”, “Gold Quest” and “Seven Diamonds”. The ruling on these companies is no different from the ruling on the companies mentioned above, even though the products they offer may vary.

And Allaah is the Source of strength. May Allaah send blessings and peace upon our Prophet Muhammad and his family and companions.

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Monday, September 05, 2005

Help a brother out here

A person bro emailed me this question. And yes, this is what it is. This is what IBOs are telling people like him. His email is in bold.

As salamu alaykum,

Wailakum-us-Salam wa Rahmatullah-e-Wa barakatahu

I am an international student in Canada from India. I am having a tough time with the rising fees and the cost of living here, and so I have been praying to Allah to give me some opportunity to earn some money. Yesterday, a muslim brother who I hardly know (met in masjid) came up to me and proposed to join the Quixtar/Alticor business program.

As far as I understand, you should rather looks for job, for now, to get you through school. Not a business. Business takes time to take off.

He told me many convincing things about this business for example, he told me that this business is not a "finanacial pyramid", rather a "structural pyramid", where someone in the downline with hardwork can make more money than their upline. He told me that I would have to buy my everyday products from their website, and he does the same.

Government, look for emphasis on recruitment versus sales in MLM companies to determine if it is a pyramid or not. Buy for yourself and teach others to do so is an illegal business, said Rich DeVos, founder of the comany. It still is!

Also, FTC Says
Pyramid schemes now come in so many forms that they may be difficult to recognize immediately. However, they all share one overriding characteristic. They promise consumers or investors large profits based primarily on recruiting others to join their program, not based on profits from any real investment or real sale of goods to the public. Some schemes may purport to sell a product, but they often simply use the product to hide their pyramid structure. There are two tell-tale signs that a product is simply being used to disguise a pyramid scheme: inventory loading and a lack of retail sales. Inventory loading occurs when a company's incentive program forces recruits to buy more products than they could ever sell, often at inflated prices. If this occurs throughout the company's distribution system, the people at the top of the pyramid reap substantial profits, even though little or no product moves to market. The people at the bottom make excessive payments for inventory that simply accumulates in their basements. A lack of retail sales is also a red flag that a pyramid exists. Many pyramid schemes will claim that their product is selling like hot cakes. However, on closer examination, the sales occur only between people inside the pyramid structure or to new recruits joining the structure, not to consumers out in the general public..
He told me he's earning around $1200 right now working 5-10 hours a week. So naturally, I decided to do my own research.

How do you know? Did he share his income tax return or calendar with you?

FTC says:
Beware of shills - "decoy" references paid by a plan's promoter to lie about their earnings through the plan.
While doing reasearch on the company, I reached a forum and read your and others' advice on the subject. I am kind of divided on the issues by reading the opinions from the both sides on the forum. The brother who has asked me to join, told me that there is a lot of "opinion" on the internet, and that I should look at the "facts" of the company.

How much "facts" has he told you? I've quoted only what FTC and founder of the company said. Read the following sites and notice the references to Quixtar's own numbers, court documents and quotes from famous "leaders" in Quixtar.

Former Diamond

FTC also says:
Do your homework! Check with your local Better Business Bureau and state Attorney General about any plan you're considering - especially when the claims about the product or your potential earnings seem too good to be true.
I suppose you are muslim. So as a muslim can you please advise me as to whether joining this type of business would be halal?

Well I'm not a "mufti". MLM may be halal. But think yourself, can you see yourself making money in this thing? are you good at selling things to your friends and family?

If you have to hide the facts in order to build this business, I really doubt it's halal. Did he tell you it's Amway?

And also, do you have some "facts" on this company?

Same number of disrubuter for like 30 years
Less than 50 Diamonds,

He is supposed to visit me again to show me the website and the prices and answer any questions that I might have. Can you, as the opponent of the system, advise me of what type of questions to ask him and check for myself if he is being honest or trying to dodge the questions?

Questions to ask

Please advise me brother, as I am a "gullible" type and have been burned before (but Allah has always helped me salvage the situation), but I still haven't lost faith in human beings, especially my fellow muslims.

Go with your gut feelings. Does this whole deal look like too good to be true?

Please leave a comment to help "bro" out.

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Quixtar Playbook # 2

Please tell me why die-hard IBOs are attracted to Tim's Random Observations blog like a moths to flame? Is it right wing theme? Anyways, read Encounter with a Quixtar Drone thread.

A pearl from there. How original!
I'm not sure what you people are talking about, but quixtar is the best thing that has ever happened to me. With-in the next two years I will be a DIAMOND!!!! So stop with your negative mind set and get up and do somthing.

Posted by: Shaun on March 23, 2004 01:14 PM
Yours truly regularly post there. Technologically, it is not very convenient for online discussion. But content wise, that blog is yubbon-clause!

Back to the comment, see the thought process? Label opinions different than yours as 'negativity' and viola! And what's up with the urge to tell people do something else? If you don't like what they say, there's always a x button on top left corner! I mean c'mon, you surfed and found that website. You are allowed to post there. No body harassed you in malls or suckered you into a mysterious meeting. No one blackmailed you for the sake of relationship.

Still don't see the irony? Your point is if you don't like Quixtar, don't criticize it and do something else. According to your own logic, if you don't like what some people post, go read something else. Something positive perhaps?

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Sunday, September 04, 2005

Alticor helps Katrina Victims

Quixtar and Beyond: Alticor response will launch today an online sku for IBOs, customers and employees to contribute to the American Red Cross and Canadian Red Cross. Donations are being taken in $10 and $25 increments. Alticor will match U.S. donations dollar for dollar up to a total of $250,000.

The Alticor Relief Team is busy planning a Thanksgiving trip to the area. The team was already scheduled to help rebuild in Indiana over the Labor day weekend - tornado damage.

Beyond that I know there are plans being formulated in tandem with relief agencies to get able bodied help there earlier and to donate products that would be needed, such as water, toothpaste, hygiene kits and more. As soon as I have concrete details I will share them.
Awsome! Doesn't matter if FEDs are reluctant to help people of New Orleans. Good people are. Quixtar sucks blog 'lauds' , 'endorses' and all that to Alticor for doing that.

Alticor gains much more points than wal-mart, who have armed guards protecting their stores so starving people can not that will be spoiled any way.

See, do good deeds, people will say good things about you. Do bad things, people will say bad things about you. That's how the world works.

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Saturday, September 03, 2005

Why so much negativity?

Quixtar business model has gone bad and bound to generate negativity. It is like a vaccum cleaner. It sucks and blows at the same time. It is not Quixtar hating zealots and internet rumormongers. It is Quixtar, Q-u-i-x-t-a-r who is responsible for all this negativity.

An IBO can't advertise, sell in shops or eBay. What choices he is left with? Harass friends and family. And random people he bumps into. Some will be pissed. Some will be vocal. Some will post it on the web. More communication is over the web now reaching wider audience.

What will happen then? People will run hearing the word Quixtar. What would IBOs do? Hide that word and use sneaky tactics. I remember being taught that. Given the public reaction to word 'Quixtar', doing so is not just a choice.

To fight negativity, Quixtar would rather sue and google bomb, instead of stopping IBOs doing things that generate negativity at the first place. But can Quixtar work if IBOs stop doing those things? Hell no. "But...what would happen to the business?" As Ken McDonald, ex GM said. So Quixtar would rather do sleazy nasty things. We are talking about scratch-and-sniff armpit of the MLM industry here!

These things will not improve the image will they? They knew the problem damn well, but didn't have the balls to fix it. Still don't.

Who pays the price? IBOs. Selling is hard by the rules. Recruiting becomes harder every day because of the image problem. Motivation and other cult mind control tactics keep IBOs loyal for longer time, but that makes their losses greater and leave them much bitter. This contributes towards more negativity and lawsuits.

Look what is happening now. Bloggers are taking shot after shot after shot at Quixtar. Honest IBOs are finding it harder to work with such a company. Kingpins are spending more on lawsuits. To date, less than 50 diamonds.

How this can be fixed?

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Friday, September 02, 2005

MLM and legal threats

Some MLM company that threatens to sue anyone who mentions its name

What's up with MLM and it's need to stay secret? And they love to go for 'copywrite' suits. Not the validatiy of information, because it is usually true! This dude is sued just because he linked to the company website using their name!!!!
I have received a letter from a US law firm accusing me of infringement of trademark rights owned by a company called Nutrition for Life International Inc. This alleged infringement consists solely of having a link on a web page to that company's site, so I am not particularly worried by the threat and I don't plan to do anything about it. I feel that the accusation of trademark infringement is just a way of trying to suppress any criticism of the US company's activities. I have made no representation that could in any way suggest that I have anything to do with them. I simply used their name as a link to their site.
And the threat by assholes:
Please be advised that we need a prompt response regarding this matter. If we do not receive a prompt response, we will be forced to file a lawsuit in U.S. District Court for trademark infringement and dilution for which we will vigorously seek actual and punitive damages as well as attorney fees and costs. If we need to file a lawsuit, it is a policy of Nutrition For Life International, Inc. ("NFLI") to not settle any matter or dismiss any lawsuit without payment of money for attorney fees and costs at a minimum. Please note that NFLI recently collected in excess of $365,000.00 for settlement of a lawsuit against EAS/Bill Phillips for their unauthorized use of the "Nutrition For Life" mark. NFLI was forced to file the lawsuit to protect its most valuable trademark as EAS ignored a simple cease and desist request with no monetary demand. NFLI was forced to file suit and EAS later had to pay the price of not only being disrespectful of other's rights but also paid a steep price for making a bad business decision to not adequately respond to our simple cease and desist request. Thus, we request a written response so we do not need to automatically file a lawsuit.
But Karma kicks in. Company went bankrupt!
On July 3, 2003, Nutrition For Life International went into bankruptcy. And people say that there is no such thing as karma.
Honorable Lawyers are Weaver & Amin, Chicago, IL, as per this page. Their website don't work either.

Want another example?

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Thursday, September 01, 2005

MO, Scott Larsen and Bananas

Orrin Woodward is a Quixtar IBO who founded a Motivational Organization TOD / TEAM.

Scott Larsen analyzed it and his opinion was it was an illegal pyramid.

This drove Orrin bananas.

He sued Scott, threw thousands and thousands of dollars, got those pages removed after one year of an expensive legal battle. After all, we got best legal system money can buy!

I mirrored them, Scott saw them and asked me to remove them. He never asked me to mirror them. It drove me bananas since I got them from public domain and there is no court order on them. But I removed them anyway. Case was going on so I thought it might help him.

Case was over, Orrin apparently had his way. He had more money! Case was over so I put them up again. Still, no court order on them.

They forced Scott to ask folks to remove their mirrors. How they did it? no idea! But I guess Orrin and Co. might be going bananas. Obviously! Thousands of dollars for nothing. He wanted me to sign an affidavit that he didn't ask me to mirror it. He didn't! Drove me bananas since it was 'free' and 'open' content, but I removed them, again. I can not understand what is illegal about them but not very eager to keep fighting with Scott. Any mention of mirrors drives Scott Larsen bananas. Try it, ask him! Maybe costs him legal fees, or pave road for another lawsuit, I dunno.

Now this whole fiasco should, as an American, drive you bananas. Read those pages. There is nothing libel. An analysis, that's it. Its harassment against freedom of speech if you ask me! If you are not going bananas, you should be going bananas for not being 'free' enough.

You wonder why not mirror it in China, Iran, North Korea or some ubber crazy country where ubber crazy US laws don't apply. I could use proxy plugin to hide my IP, and could have mirrored it secretly at least in Pakistan or India, but I didn't. Why? Don't ask me, it drives me bananas.

Remember one thing, we got the best legal system money can buy!

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