What should be done with Amway?
Should we learn a lesson from Britts and shut down amway? They started English, they must be right about amway?
Amway crimes
Millions of people have lost Billions of dollars to pursue the "dream". It is a largest running scam in my opinion. One must be a great salesman to be successful in amway. Ironically, a great salesman has far better options. Mostly people without any sales experience do amway.
In a nutshell, IBOs are unpaid salesmen, if they sell any thing. Usually they end up buying amway products. They don't do it before and after amway. What does that tell you?
I think amway should be shut down immediately, and all past IBOS should be reimbursed some thing.
Speaking of reimbursement, I'll continue blogging about Quixtar until I make $10, 000. That's the money I lost in Quixtar. If you're an IBO, click ads to get me there earlier. If you're a critic, click it twice.
posted by Loser @ 7:21 PM
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20 Comments:
I am a critic of Amway, but I wont click on any Ad links. I would like you to keep posting about Amway for a looong time.
Ladies and gentlemen - Please spread the truth about Amway/Quixtar. Tell as many people as you can about this scam so innocent people will have prior knowledge of this cult before an Ambot approaches them and promises them "financial freedom".
Promises of financial freedom... wow, what a revelation! When I was approached, I was never made any promises, all I was told was that it's going to take work and effort to make it work and that no one is going to do that work for so that it becomes welfare.
Wow, you people are pretty sharp deceivers! I checked the opportunity out and now I feel confident that it is for real. Thank God I did not listen to people like you!
Anon2...
We are the deceivers?? That's funny. Be honest with yourself, they told you that you could make how much working how long??? I doubt you are the ONLY IBO that was told, "hey wanna make a lot of money?? It will be the hardest work you have ever done. You will never have time to yourself. You will need to buy countless CD's and books or be chastized if you don't. By the way this is AMWAY...we are very open in letting people know that. But despite all this you will be a millionaire, well might be, the failure rate is something like 95%" Keep on hanging on your uplines every word. It should work out well for you.
"But despite all this you will be a millionaire, well might be, the failure rate is something like 95%"
95%!?!! Anna, how could you spread such lies like that? I thought you're a person of integrity.
The failure rate is actually just 99.83%... :D
I really wanted to search peoples comments on quixtar and realized that those that don't put their effort into anything will badmouth it to others. In other words you become a crab! so here you are thinking your helping others by installing negativity so that they don't fall in the same hole you did. Thats great and all but what doesn't work for you may work for others. I wont give examples why it wont work for you because everyone has different excuses. I was never promised millions and was never told it'll be quick. I was told like any other job that it would take time and effort. This is comming from someone who's only been in this for 3 weeks. already i'm on the move and doing what i have to do. I've tried other places like rich dad poor dad, robert allen, primerica, and 2by2.net. Those are high priced plans that scream out skam! Anyways, the best thing that I learned from my meeting is that if i'm going to take advise on something, make sure its from someone that has the experience not someone who fails!
Anon3 says..."I really wanted to search peoples comments on quixtar and realized that those that don't put their effort into anything will badmouth it to others. In other words you become a crab! so here you are thinking your helping others by installing negativity so that they don't fall in the same hole you did. Thats great and all but what doesn't work for you may work for others. I wont give examples why it wont work for you because everyone has different excuses. I was never promised millions and was never told it'll be quick. I was told like any other job that it would take time and effort. This is comming from someone who's only been in this for 3 weeks. already i'm on the move and doing what i have to do. I've tried other places like rich dad poor dad, robert allen, primerica, and 2by2.net. Those are high priced plans that scream out skam! Anyways, the best thing that I learned from my meeting is that if i'm going to take advise on something, make sure its from someone that has the experience not someone who fails!"
All I have to say is wow...you were taught well, and learned quickly. Why would you assume that anyone that has something to say negative about something means that they have failed? Why would you assume that some of these critics don't have just as much if not more experience? You are right about one thing...everyone has excuses...you have one right now. You also have one when your family wants to see you, you will also have one when you realize that you are hoplessly in debt.
I USE TO BE IN QUIXTAR
WHAT IS IT THAT YOU, IN YOUR BLOG, WOULD OFFER THAT WOULD BE BETTER THEN A CHANCE AT SUCCESS?
I HAVE A CAREER I GET PAID WELL, I HAVE A FAMILY AND I RAISE MY KIDS AND LEARN TO DO BETTER EVERYDAY.
WHAT WISDOM WOULD YOU SHARE WITH EVERYONE THAT MIGHT TEACH THEM SOMETHING THAT WOULD BETTER YOUR LIFE.
DONT GET ME WRONG I QUIT BECAUSE OF THE CHANGES THEY ARE MAKING, I LEARNED ALOT FROM THE HIGH LEVEL ACHIEVERS IN THE QUIXTAR BUSINES.
I DIDNT LEARN ANYTHING FROM QUIXTAR. except dont trust lazy 2nd generation kids who dont have the kahonas their fathers had.
I THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER IF YOU WENT AFTER QUIXTAR MORE THEN YOU GO AFTER THE PEOPLE IN IT. some people have really moral and ethical leadership that really wants to see them win.
DO YOU KNOW THE DIFFERENCE?
BETWEEN THE COMPANY AND ITS IBO'S?
THAT MIGHT BE THE BIG PICTURE PROBLEM.
sorry about the caps
What should be done about Amway? Roll it up like the Enron Scam business that it is. Freeze the remaining assets and distribute them to the poor.
Quixtar is a multibillion dollar company that has great products and services. I have known and personally know many financial achievers in Quixtar and Amway. The founding families of this company have enough assets to retire and not work another day of their lives yet the continue to work to assist others in success. It is a great business.
I just got started in Quixtar. I have seen proof that it works for some people. I also know it is going to take time and effort to make it work. But what I was really wondering....If you think it is such a bad deal, why did you stay in till you lost $10,000?
Anonymous, many IBOs stay in until the losses mount because they are programmed to do so. Upline labels people who quit as losers, failures. It becomes peer pressure to stay in. Plus they teach you how staying in one more week could turn your business around, success could be right around the corner, etc.
Once you have been in for a while, it's hard to quit.
FYI...for those of you who think it's a scam..well it isn't. You probably only think that because you failed to suceed!Sucks to be you! I'm actually a DIAMOND and making shitloads of money than you will ever make in your life time. And all it takes is a lot of ahrd worlk and a lot of HEART! If you want ot give up on yourself it is totally up to you. DO NOT LISTEN to a blogger who is probably nowhere in his/her life and just sits at his/her computer and makes false comments about a GREAT business. Have you actually been to a conference or an EXPO. YOu will probably never find a group of people more succesful, accomplished and RICH$$$$$. And the product sold by Quixtar are amazing. All I really want to say os try it for yourself before listening to a failure. MAKE YOUR OWN DECISONS! YOU CAN DO IT!
What statements here are false?
You say you're making tons of money but it's all relative.
Maybe the bloggers make more money than you. You haven't proven anything except the ability to BS.
1. i don't understand how could someone lose $10000 in a business which has a 100% money back guarantee on seed capital( if you could call it so) and also on running capital? And if someone did then what kind of an entrepreneur is he? and why should i listen to him when i set out to start my business?
2. failing rate in Amway? if someone is not a Diamond you call it failure? why? someone making a $500 or $1000 extra is not successful? why don't you count those people in success rate? because your definition of success is something else. you think if someone is not a Diamond thats a failure. please don't push your idea of calculating success rate on others.
...continuing from my earlier post
3. Amway is a scam? yeah sure and you're the smartest guy on this earth. imagine a multi-billion dollar scam running successfully since last 50 years in more than 80 countries and territories fooling millions of people and every kind of economy ... from capitalist economy in US/Canada, to communist economy in China, to socialist economies. you think Amway could fool everybody,every government and every court except you. you should be given noble peace prize for the discovery of the century for world peace. if you think its a scam then i guess such a scam deserves due respect.
4. on a serious note, who are you to call it a scam? you'll decide what should be done with Amway? every court every Federal Trade Commission has given a verdict that Amway business is a legal business and should be used as a standard for the whole direct selling industry. you talk about UK? Amway won the case and operations have started again in UK. what do you know? are you above the law to give your declarations? your words simply imply that along with Amway IBOs, even those esteemed judges who gave these verdicts were dumb? you know why Amway doesn't sue people like you saying such things? my guess is that they don't sue you because they won't get anything by suing you and its a total waste of time and money on their part and free publicity for your blog and stuff. If some big corporate house or some highly successful person said such things about Amway then it makes sense to sue him. alas, anyone who is highly successful respects Amway and its business model because they have a clear vision. Alas, such people have only good things to say about Amway and people who run Amway.
...continuing from my earlier post again
5. there's a human psychology that those who quit or fail in something don't brag about their failures. Amway is the only business where u alway find exceptions. here you find people who feel so proud of their failure that they start a blog of their own to tell the whole world that they failed. they want to tell everyone that since they couldn't make it so they think no one else can make it too.
6. why should I listen to you? you wanna compare yourself with Amway people? Late Jay VanAndel (Co-Founder of Amway) said "purpose of life is to glorify God in everything you do". this is one of the most profound and enlightening statements i ever heard. one who understands his purpose of life in this way can never do anything wrong. honestly, did you ever sit down to think whats the purpose of your life or you're here only to win arguments? if you did then you'd know what you were doing. you don't even know what and who you're talking about.
...continuing from my last post
7. maybe someone tricked you into Amway. Maybe you didn't get proper support by your upline to see the results coming your way, to prove it to you that it could work for you. If thats the case then honestly i feel sorry about that. but more than that my heart goes out to those who even under negligible or negative support from their upline became successful in Amway business because it was their dream not their upline's. i met one such couple from Hongkong a few days back. their upline Diamond quit Amway to join some other MLM and took away practically their whole group of leaders when they were about to start qualification. if they thought like you they'd be where you are happy today. but they built the business for some solid reason of their own, not for their upline or Amway and today they are crown ambassadors in Hongkong and crown in China (Anita and Clement Fu). such moments don't define where you go in life but your reaction to such moments define where you go in life. some people find a way and some people find circumstances to blame. i understand maybe you were misguided after you started Amway business. you find good and bad people in every profession. in India, my country, we find bad people even in the most noble professions like medicine. that doesn't mean you blame medical profession. that doesn't stop anyone from aspiring to become a doctor, and a good doctor for that matter. likewise, there might be some Amway IBOs who do not present the business in the most ethical/authentic way. that doesn't mean Amway business is bad. Amway has given sufficient protection to new IBOs in terms of refund policies and lots of things. whats needed is common sense. the problem area, i think, is that people after joining Amway surrender their intelligence to their upline. when actually they're required to surrender intelligently to their upline.
Amit said: there might be some Amway IBOs who do not present the business in the most ethical/authentic way. that doesn't mean Amway business is bad.
Joe says: Amit, while this is true, at what point is it a problem that needs to be addressed? It seems like unethical IBOs are still rampant in quixtar and not much has been
done to reign them in.
For me, I will never criticize my competitor. I'd rather do a healthy competition so as to achieve that much sought prestige with high regards to feelings rather than money. If this is applied, eventual freedom to reach that success is just a meter away.
people post allot of crap on the internet about amway but never took the time to examine about what it is. In every business you have to put in work and effort into it so that it can work. people expect to sit back on their a** and make money well let me tell you with success there is a price to pay and STOP POSTING JUNK ON THE INTERNET you'll are the deceivers
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