Wednesday, November 16, 2005

Reader Mail

nncouple commented it here

Friends, Stay out of this Quixtar business. Both we and my wife are from Bombay, India and have been involved with Quixtar for the past 3 years. For the past 3 years we have been showing a loss of $12K - $15K each and every year in our IRS statements. We came to this land of opportunity in 1999 and started our Quixtar business in 2002.

The problem with Quixtar is it is very easy to get into this business (just couple of 100's of dollars to get started). However the most difficult part is to quit the business, even though the financial losses and the deceit are obvious. The reason is you become part of a bigger team, your upline (the person who bring you in this business) becomes your best friend, you become friends with other people of the team and the people you recruit (bring into the business). You recruit people by offering to help them make some extra income. All these people start relying and get dependant on you. Walking away from people who have become close to you, with whom you have spent countless late nights (post meeting sessions), with whom you have traveled across the country to attend conferences is the most difficult part. Today, though we are more or less inactive( I have stopped attending meetings, my wife still attends) and the word is spreading in the team that we are going slow, we get countless phone calls from people in the team trying to pull us back into the whole thing.

Dependency is the basic principle of this business. From the very first day you start this business, you are told to stop thinking and to stop being creative. One of the cardinal rules taught is that you should not do anything new without checking with your upline.

I know people, who check with their upline, which color suit to buy and from where to buy. I remember buying a new mobile phone without checking with my upline. I could notice the anger on my upline’s face and heard plenty of indirect comments about not being loyal to the upline and not checking with the upline. The tapes / cd’s, books, seminar’s and conferences are tools of this business. These tools are very very addictive. Once you get hooked on to them, you want to hear them again and again. These tapes are recorded from speeches by successful people in the business and are mostly rags to riches stories and the struggle people have overcome to build the business. On listening to these tapes / cd’s again and again and from different couples, you finally start believing you can become as successful as them and will start defying logic and factual data. 99% of people loose money in this business. We were loosing heavily, but continued to believe the opposite, thanks to the brainwashing tapes / cd’s. All these tools convey the same messages: ‘If you quit you are a loser.’ ‘The smartest way to build the business is to stop questioning the system and to follow the system.’ ‘Listen to your upline, they have the best intentions for your success.’ ‘Your closest friends and relatives are your biggest dream stealers. Hence do not listen to your closest friends and relatives.’ These messages are repeated again and again until you really start believing in them and start following them. A person who refuses to acknowledge these messages is considered a poor listener.

We went Platinum in May’05(a level in the business less that 2% reach). Our uplines gifted us a nice pen set. After the gift we were told that we have reached a level where we have to become very careful about making any decisions ourself. We were asked if we intended to start a family. We replied, yes we do. We were told to hold back and postpone it for couple of more years, until we had a solid Emerald level business. A solid Emerald business would give us all the bucks and the time that we will desperately need with kids. Every Indian I know of in my team (80% indians), except the few who are the team leaders are loosing money.

I know this is a very long post, but please, please stay out of this business, unless you have ample of money to loose. This request is coming from the bottom of our hearts. What is mentioned in this post is just a few of countless mind controlling activities. We went through a horrible phase in the last 3 years.

Thank God, I am out of it and helping my wife to slowly walk out of it too. She being a woman is very emotional and is taking a little longer to detach from the environment.

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At 11/16/2005 05:44:00 PM, Blogger Jason said...

It’s truly a happier place when you're free of network marketing! My sister and her husband are still trapped in a dream unfortunately.
Please ensure that you don't have any tax skeletons in your closet or you may find your self doing more degrading work for no pay(community service). A helpful Canadian Tax guide for direct sellers that not too many people know about:

Expenses from a maximum of 2 meetings per year can be claimed, etc.

Good luck to you.

Jason Rosenthal

At 11/18/2005 09:52:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Your name"loser" sums it up.

At 11/21/2005 04:26:00 PM, Anonymous Frank Furter said...

Hey Apu: "Would you like some beef jerky with your slurpee?"

I bet you never shower..blech. go home greasebag

At 11/22/2005 10:28:00 AM, Anonymous Tony said...

Hey Frank and others,
Don't resort to name calling and insults. I don't agree with Imran on hardly anything or the original person who posted. If they throw out direct insults at you, by all means throw it back. But debate the merits. Any Platinum losing $15k a year is doing something wrong. That's just nuts.
But either way, my point is: leave it up to the critbots to make themselves look bad, don't make the type of vulgar attacks I expect from df and rocket.

At 11/22/2005 10:59:00 AM, Anonymous Frank Furter said...

but me likey smelly foreign people. me likey the website :)

At 11/22/2005 11:03:00 AM, Anonymous Frank Furter said...

what's quickstar? don't really know what all the hub ub is about..ever since 9-11 though I distrust smelly foreign people ...go home! go back to the crap hole of pakistan

At 11/22/2005 02:17:00 PM, Anonymous Tony said...

Well that makes more sense, you not being an IBO. Ha, yea, I don't know what all the hub ub is about either. Qx is a web-based business opportunity that offers no guarantees just as NO business offers guarantees. Some people do some work for a short amount of time, get little results and quit, some never even start and just bash it, cause there's So many scams out there, they're just skeptical at Anything remotely out of the norm, and some people actually give it an honest effort for an extended period of time with an "I Will succeed attitude, and actually make a lot of money at it, and help others!" You can read "less negative" info on Q* at and

And not all foreigners are smelly. I'm sure Imran showers daily. Though he does eat goat. ;)

At 11/23/2005 08:51:00 PM, Blogger rocket said...

"Qx is a web-based business opportunity that offers no guarantees "

That's about as good as you can do, Tonypuke.

That is about it.

Nice business. Ha! Not!!!

When you gonna retire? Are your parents looking forward to not having to go into the basement to wake you up for work in the morning?

I'll bet they are.

At 11/25/2005 02:54:00 PM, Blogger Joecool18 said...


Quixtar is not a web based business for all of quixtar. For some reason, WWDB still runs call in and product pick up.

At 11/28/2005 10:57:00 AM, Anonymous Tony said...

haha - funny ;) Actually pocket rocket I own my own house, and wake up to an alarm clock just like you, the only difference is oneday I won't be and you still Will be. I hope you keep blogging here long after I disappear - cause one day I will come back, and your foot will be so far in your mouth - you'll be kicking yourself in the @$$.


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