Friday, June 17, 2005

eSpring vs Aquasana

First of all, a business truth: There could be a better and / or cheaper products out there. Learn to do business as a business person, not as a 'believer'.

Based on my experiences, Aquasana is slightly better, approximately $900 (nine hundred dollars) cheaper than eSpring, and cost per gallon is more economical.

Cheaper Cost / gallon should be the strength of "expensive but concentrated" eSpring. Concentration is usually one of those talking point like, "But our product saves money in the long run". Well, here Aquasana does.

Aquasana

Here is the moola I saved:

Aquasana Drinking Water System

SubTotal: $119.95
Discount: -$27.59
Shipping and Handling: $0.00
Sales Tax (if shipped to Texas): $0.00
Complete Total: $92.36
92.36 USD @ 1.2346 = $114.03 CAD.

This includes all taxes. Easier to install than eSpring. Yummy water.

Here is a good comparison study. Based of which I bought Aquasana. Thanks lawdawg. The great debate with IBOs can be seen here and here.

eSpring

For Quixtar's eSpring, (their shipping is free as well)

100188 eSpringĀ® Water Purifier

Order Subtotal ................$877.60
Delivery Charge ................$0.00
Preset Delivery Charges ................$0.00
Handling ................$0.00
GST Tax* ................$61.43
HST Tax ................$0.00
PST Tax ................$70.21
Total ................$1,009.24

1,009.24 / 114 = 8.85 times.


Quality

Haven't you read that study? Aquasana beats eSpring, hands down!

See, I am not the one who buy low quality products from WalMart. Quality is most important to me. I'm also that type of a person who puts health of his family first when buying water filter. That's why instead of buying some proudct in hope of buying some PV, I bought what is good for me and my family.

Also I get to keep the money I saved, instead of making kids of Jay and Rich richer.

Now, I'm going to do an interview of some real dietition for the necessity of supplements. Stay tuned ;)

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At 8/30/2005 11:59:00 AM, Blogger Figure 8 said...

pay a visit to network solutions and you will see that aquasana.com and waterfiltercomparisons.com are hosted on adjacent IP addresses in Texas - do you think the same compant owns both sites?

 
At 8/30/2005 01:29:00 PM, Blogger Loser said...

I dunno, one is Dallas, other is Colorodo.
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At 8/30/2005 01:32:00 PM, Blogger Loser said...

But...IP is adjacent, agreed!!

Pinging waterfiltercomparisons.net [66.111.110.18] with 32 by

Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.

Ping statistics for 66.111.110.18:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms

C:\Documents and Settings\Imran1>ping aquasana.com

Pinging aquasana.com [66.111.110.19] with 32 bytes of data:

 
At 8/30/2005 03:55:00 PM, Blogger Loser said...

So what is wrong with that comparison? eSpring prices were taken from Quixtar.com and Aquasana from Aquasana. What justifies $900 difference?

 
At 11/02/2005 10:15:00 PM, Blogger insider said...

The IP addresses are more than agent, they are on the same machine.
Do an FTP to the IP addresses and you find that aquasana.com and waterfiltercomparisons.net are hosted on the same machine "web1".

waterfiltercomparisons.net is obviously a front for aquasana.com, so take their evaluations with a grain of salt.

 
At 2/09/2006 06:08:00 PM, Anonymous espring rocks! said...

check the nsf.org website ....espring is standard 42, 44, 53 and 177 approved....i dont see aquasana anywhere...makes me wonder abt the claims in the comparison

 
At 2/09/2006 10:06:00 PM, Blogger Loser said...

I used the search on that site. I couldn't find eSpring there as well, give link.

 
At 3/24/2006 10:57:00 PM, Anonymous Patrick Boucher said...

link to eSpring on nsf.org: http://tinyurl.com/rkvg6

 
At 9/29/2006 04:12:00 AM, Anonymous samy254 said...

first off all price of amway espring is $420.00 according too
http://www.waterfiltercomparisons.net/WaterFilter_Comparison.cfm

so difference is smaller.

Second aquasana DOES not have a UV lamp that kills bacteria....

it is better to compare same level products....

according to http://www.waterfiltercomparisons.net/WaterFilter_Comparison.cfm


cost per gallon of aquasana is 9cent and amway 9,6 (i am willing to pay that for having UV filtering also...)


Samy254

 
At 11/24/2006 08:39:00 AM, Blogger insider said...

Ya gotta love the Quixtar critics. So desperate to find things to complain about they take a product review written by a competitor and claim the competitor is better! And even the most cursory comparison shows the eSpring is a far far more sophisticated unit.

The Truth About Quixtar

 
At 11/26/2006 05:23:00 PM, Blogger Loser said...

"insider", another "insider" has already commented. You know, the one before you ;) Tell him hi.

 
At 11/28/2006 02:51:00 PM, Blogger insider said...

nope, that was me, I just wanted to get a link to my new site on this blog :-)

The Truth About Amway and Quixtar

 
At 4/08/2007 10:18:00 PM, Anonymous onatba said...

You can buy 2 aquasana and connect them to each other and use it like that for the price of one espring... and you will get 2x filtered water with probably much more better than just one espring. also probably the best filter in the world, right??
a good quality bottled spring water is always better than filtered tap water!!
don't play with nature's rules.. what were the old men drinkin? eSpring?? poland spring?? or just any water?

 
At 4/10/2007 09:42:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You all need to realize that the Amway product in that comparison is the old filtration unit and is not even an eSpring model. The E-5199 is an old product that isn't even sold anymore. They list the old one because none of them can compete with eSpring. Get your info right before you argue.

 
At 6/04/2007 06:23:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Loser - really Loser

 
At 8/19/2007 04:44:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't compare orange with apple, you sucks filtration system is just a water filter we are water treatment system, so how can compare? and can you tell me are your product certified by NSF? How many micron your filter can handle? And how many contaminant your filter can handle? don't compare with espring, no one can beat us espring..... loser..... please give us a break.

 
At 11/16/2007 02:08:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You are all homosapiens. OMG I cannot believe the ignorance displayed in this blog. Did anybody research water purification before buying either product or commenting on either product? Neither of these are any good. A single stage carbon filter, probably not even a GAC fitler, and then a UV irradiation. UV irradiation does no good on water when it is only pressed throught a carbon filter. Why? Those pesky little micro's are shaded by the slightest disolved ions.

Your basic carbon filter is good for chlorine and large particulates.
http://www.freedrinkingwater.com/images-new/particle-size-removal.jpg

eSpring's site is as generic as EVER. Yah, they got me wanting one. $1k for a single stage purifer?

Check this out.
http://www.freedrinkingwater.com/ro-45-detail.htm

$300 for a 5 stage. WOOHOO This is just one product. Neither of the two products you ppl argued for talked about filter particle size. Your comments are, "it's good enough for me." Give me your $1k, I'll send you a better $450 product. DOH!

-Anonymous

 
At 3/03/2008 05:01:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who is www.waterfiltercomparisons.com
It's an international organization? As NSF?

 
At 6/03/2008 08:16:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

amount of time you spent doing this research.. could have been better utilized building any business.. Common thing I noticed Losers behave the same way

 
At 8/27/2008 12:57:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It seems there is much to argue about eSpring vs. Aquasana vs. other filters.

First off, I have to shoot down the reverse osmosis filter posted as the 5-stage filter. Reverse osmosis removes healthy minerals out of your water, so what good is that? It is indeed clean water, but without minerals, I might as well use it to clean my car with a spot-free rinse.

As for Aquasana, I'd say it's pretty much on the same level as eSpring in terms of pricing. The overall price per gallon is a little cheaper, but I dont know if price is really the issue at hand.

If we're looking for drinking water, I'll have to choose eSpring. Crazy as you may want to call me, it does seem to eliminate the most overall.

Everyone, thank you for your input and discussion.

 
At 11/04/2008 09:35:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

E-SPRING just the best water filter in all around the world!!!everything else just trying to be like E SPRING!!!think about your health.nothing else!how much does your health cost???tnx for reading these and sorry if my english is not correct. PEACE!!!

 
At 11/10/2008 01:40:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

E-Spring !!!
http://www.espring.com/

 
At 1/28/2009 12:56:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Minerals in drinking water are not really good for our bodies.

Water only contains inorganic minerals that our bodies have a hard time absorbing. We really need organic minerals from the foods we eat. Plus the amount of minerals in water is insignificant. A 8 oz glass of orange juice can have more minerals than 8 gallons of tap water.

Over time, ingesting inorganic minerals (mostly calcium salts) can lead to gallstones, kidney stones, calcification of bones & joints, arthritis, and hardening of our arteries.

Everyone should really look for a water system (reverse osmosis, distillation) that takes out these harmful inorganic minerals.

 
At 2/05/2009 06:43:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

onatba,

What were the old men drinking? what kind of an argument is that?! they were drinking regular water, thats right, but that was WAY before pipes and water pollution! Anyone would have been drinking water straight fromt the lake if the circumstances were still like that!

PS. Bottled water? Really? How much do you spend on it every year?

 
At 4/23/2009 04:14:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

bottled water is not really any good for you after it has been standing on the supermarket shelves either - stagnant water gives rise to bacteria growing in it, and becomes stale and possibly more harmful than good - also, think of the millions of plastic bittles which are mostly non recyclable that get tossed out each year

 
At 4/29/2009 06:04:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Words prove nothing... please ask your friend who is expert in this to show you the difference... demonstration will definitely prove to you.

Go for Espring .... k?

 
At 7/05/2009 10:21:00 PM, Blogger DrBrent said...

I find this whole discussion amusing, but here are the facts. If you go to www.wqa.org (Water Quality Association) they carry a listing of all of the products that they have tested. It states what a products abilities are, and who makes it. Aquasana, which is owned by Sun Water Systems, Inc. 6310 Midway Rd. Haltom City, TX 76117 has NO products tested and certified by WQA. However, eSpring, which is owned by Access Business Group LLC 7575 East Fulton Street P O Box 50-3P Ada, MI 49355 has 28 products that are registered by WQA. Now, unless you can PROVE a conspiracy that eSpring and the WQA, which is an independent organization, are in cahoots with each other, this argument is over.

 
At 8/03/2009 05:37:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

go to www.quixtar.com for proper information and pricing on the eSpring.

 
At 8/26/2009 04:45:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

just to let you know.aquasana is tested from Underwriters laboratories.which is as good as WQA and NSF. although the my opinion is that espring is the best product. It has also the gold seal from wqa.

 
At 10/14/2009 07:02:00 AM, Anonymous Skwatch said...

Notice how companies will make a product, then pat themselves on the back and try to edify themselves?

The Espring is NOT a filtration unit, its a purification unit, which does ALOT more than any other filtration unit available on the market.

Hands down.
WQA is awesome, and their results are reconised internationally,from USA to South Africa!

Espring FTW!

 
At 12/09/2009 11:02:00 PM, Blogger Anas said...

Hey thanks for the post. I'm actually looking to buy a water treatment system myself. I have been looking at many sites comparing aquasana and espring so I know that it means that those two must be the best water treatment system. I see that aquasana clearly beat espring in terms of price. So I went to check for certification from NSF before I purchase it. Luckily for me, I found out despite all the claims made by aquasana, it is not certified by NSF. Espring however is certified. So I don't mind investing a little more on espring. At least I know that I'm buying a good sytem that have a valid claim to their product. If you wish to buy any product an see if it is certified, go to this website:

http://www.nsf.org/certified/consumer/listings_main.asp

I hope this helps.

 
At 5/19/2010 05:18:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hello everybody! I'm from Ukraine. My English is bed but I wanted to tell you some thing.
You know, every where I see and here the same critic. I see these words in Russia market. I here this all in Ukraine. And you know what? No one yet find a better water filter then eSpring!
My dear critics, I can assure you. You may join us or shut up! That is all.

 
At 5/30/2010 03:15:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

After reading these polarizing comments, I have no hope of changing anyone's mind, but maybe I can give an outsider's perspective.

I bought a house last year and it had an espring filter/purifier/whatever-the-correct-term-is. I need another filter cartridge and I found this site googling before I realized that the system is an Amway product.

Everyone who has been to my house has commented on how amazing the water tastes coming from the system.

Now that I know this is an Amway product, I am relieved.

Why? I am not an IBO nor do I intend to be. A few years ago the mother of one of my sons' friend talked to us about Amway and set us up an account.

You see, I had been taking Double X for years but had lost my IBO contact about 10 years ago.

Amway makes outstanding products which are priced accordingly. We use several Amway products in our home. I just placed an order for several items including a replacement filter cartridge.

Someone whose name I can't recall continues to get some PV/BV from our purchases and I get access to high quality products at distributor prices.

If you prefer Aquasana (whatever that is), then enjoy your system.

I know my family enjoys my system.

 
At 6/08/2010 12:46:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Seems like everyone thinks they are an expert that study on comparison of Aquanasa vs espring. Its the internet once again tryin to be the expert.

Those 10 items you have listed, god if your country has any lead at levels that need to be filtered in the first place stop showering.

Very limited research agree with last post to a certain degree look for real studies and certification and don't look just on the net.

 
At 7/04/2010 01:03:00 PM, Blogger Stefan Hass said...

I just read a great review about eSpiring on www.waterfilterguru.com

 
At 8/13/2010 04:43:00 PM, Anonymous Tessa van Niekerk said...

I've been looking at all the comments and I agree that based on that comparison, Aquasana beats eSpring hands down. BUT I can buy eSpring here in South Africa and I've never heard of Aquasana before.

And Jay and Rich's kids don't NEED the eSpring to become rich - they already are, thanks to SOAP.

I'm going to buy me an eSpring unit. It's sexy, it's easy to handle, and it's the best water purification system available here where I live! PLUS the PV rewards come in handy and I get discount anyway!

 
At 8/13/2010 04:44:00 PM, Anonymous Tessa van Niekerk said...

I've been looking at all the comments and I agree that based on that comparison, Aquasana beats eSpring hands down. BUT I can buy eSpring here in South Africa and I've never heard of Aquasana before.

And Jay and Rich's kids don't NEED the eSpring to become rich - they already are, thanks to SOAP.

I'm going to buy me an eSpring unit. It's sexy, it's easy to handle, and it's the best water purification system available here where I live! PLUS the PV rewards come in handy and I get discount anyway!

 
At 9/13/2010 01:19:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

no need to compare~ u all must know that, E-spring (amway product) is the best water filter in all around the world!!!no one can beat us espring!!if u choose espring, u really is a smart person! thx~

 
At 10/17/2010 05:24:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Espring is much cheaper than #900. it is only about $400 plus shipping. Water really tastes good. Great water filtering system.

 
At 10/22/2010 06:17:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does Aquasana have UV sanitizer? i know espring has it.

 
At 2/22/2011 12:02:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Interesting...all this about how Aquasana is better than eSpring and the "comparison" site is maintained by the company that sells Aquasana. Also interesting that any mention of eSpring is no longer on the sight. Hmmm, anyone smell the threat of a lawsuit besides me?

 
At 4/16/2011 02:38:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm looking for a drinking water treatment system... After some studies, i will go for espring. I believe it can give the best for my family.

 
At 7/10/2011 11:32:00 PM, Blogger e2thatop said...

that is based on your own bias opinion

 
At 7/11/2011 12:16:00 AM, Blogger Loser said...

All the facts are there.

 
At 10/03/2011 01:41:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I used to be an IBO for a very long time. I remember when eSpring first came out...it was revolutionary and there was nothing like it on the market to the point that it set NEW standards in water treatment. In that respect, I think eSpring is one of the best products ever produced by the Amway corporation.

Since then, the price has practically doubled...it used to be about $500 and I just looked online a few minutes ago and now its almost $1,000....wow!

Some of the other rumors I've heard (unconfirmed) is that eSpring delivers micro-clustered water and I'm pretty sure the carbon filter is "magnetic" (not sure what that means). Also, one of the draw backs with eSpring is that you need electricity for it to work. Generally, that is not an issue but, in the event of a natural disaster or power outage you're screwed. Plus, its not certified to be able to filter pond water...its only able to work with the water that comes through your pipes which is pretty much filtered and drinkable already (although I wouldn't drink it).

My main issue with eSpring, as with many of Amway's products, is that they sometimes follow a route that is too traditional. Specifically with eSpring, is that it does not take fluoride out of the water. Much of the municipal water in the US is treated with sodium fluoride (NaF) because they say its good for your teeth but, studies have shown that consuming fluoridated water can cause bone cancer in men. Also, consuming fluoridated water does nothing for your teeth. Fluoride is toxic to the body and should only be applied topically to your teeth (toothpaste), not to be consumed.

What Amway got right when they first began the company was environmentally friendly soaps, etc. but, they have gotten away from that to a degree. I believe if they focused on changing their product line or at least added more natural products they would increase their business.

 
At 10/03/2011 01:45:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.bigberkeywaterfilters.com/

 
At 10/03/2011 01:48:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.fluoridealert.org/health/cancer/bassin-2001.pdf

 
At 10/03/2011 01:58:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8FBBw-UQxY&feature=player_embedded#!

 
At 11/16/2011 04:06:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

you guys are all sheep

check out berkey water purification systems - used by redcross unicef and other divide and conquer orgs

much better and simple and when shit hits the fan and you lose electricity where will your drinking water be

don't believe the hype
bahahaha

 
At 1/20/2012 03:28:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Puriteam.com is the way to go for water filters! The products are far superior to the rest and the customer service is outstanding.

The About Us page at the bottom of the waterfiltercomparison.com page says "The information on waterfiltercomparisons.com has been compiled by Aquasana, Inc.,..."

 
At 2/12/2012 08:04:00 AM, Blogger enigmamusement said...

My personal experience with E-Spring so far is miraculous. Tapwater if not filtered enough can cause intestinal pain where it is easy to blame the supermarket, restaurant or takeaway for not keeping fresh fruit and vegetables fresh enough, or cooked food hot enough. I would never rinse any vegetables or fruits such as lettuce under tapwater, it must be dipped and rolled in a large stainless steel bowl of purified water from E-Spring and then left to dry on a bath towel. Highly recommend adding lemon juice to kill further bacteria or viruses that might have escaped from the mouth valve of the E-Spring tap, as water is suspended inside it without our knowing it when the tap begins to flow downwards into glass, jug or stainless steel milkshake cup of your favorite juice::

 
At 9/24/2012 05:32:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You guys know that Amway is a cult right. I am usually a funny guy but I am dead serious. Ask anybody over 50 and theyll tell you to "run man run". Dont like to talk to the elderly? Google "Amway Cult" Theyre as crazy as scientologists. There is a reason that any reader here who has never heard of Amway is sensing a strange fanaticism from everyone supporting espring. You should watch the training video(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhdOexEHfgM) and keep in mind that this it is NOT a commercial it is intended to train the salesman (and through him, his clients) how to love, and beleive in eSpring.Its loaded with the same technical buzzword jargon that most supporters here are parroting. And btw the wireless coupling BS is not that impressive, it is a true gimmick and could be accomplished in counless other ways without sacrificing "cleanliness" probably what allows them to charge so much. That and Amway has to get enough money for it to trickle down the Pyramid Scheme so their slav.. I mean Team Players! dont lose faith.

Im not saying Amway doesnt make good products, but they are never the last word in technilogical marvels, espring is the same bullshit that everyone else is selling, its the "true beleivers" who make it sound so appealing. Go read the eSpring website, there is not a single peice of legitimate information on the whole site. All happy go lucky froo froo, mixed with vauge cheap buzzwords.

 
At 1/05/2015 02:43:00 AM, Blogger TRY It Before You BUY It said...

Thank you for your awesome post. I like your eSpring Water Purifier system so much.

 
At 2/19/2016 12:48:00 PM, Anonymous Prince said...

Absolutely Espring is the best talking about quality of water..doesn't matter who sells it..
Espring is NSF and WQA-Gold certified (these are third party). Also, Espring comes with 3 years of 100 percent satisfaction warranty..what else does an intelligent consumer want.. I am a proud Espring user..Best for my family..

 

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