Tuesday, January 31, 2006

I'm a Diamond?

In many online Quixtar discussions, a popular comeback by IBOs: "So Quixtar was not for you. It is not for every one. Move on. Why bad mouth it?"

I've been to many opens and seminars. An hour is spent explaining how sucky jobs are and how 95% small businesses fail. That's not "bad mouthing"?

Why not? Because at the end they get to present Quixtar?

So.... if you bad mouth to make money then its ok? Guess what, I never said I didn't make any money writing this blog. (I'm not saying I do, more on it later)

Am I equivalant to Diamonds then? I bad mouth Quixtar, Diamonds bad mouth jobs, other businesses, schools. But they make money right? Who is to say I don't? Who is to say I make less than them? You may not have their P/L sheet. You certainly don't have mine. Start shooting assumptions. Go ahead.

By they way, quite some battle going on here :) 50 comments! Holly molly. Well I don't mind. Good points, keep it up.

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At 2/01/2006 12:27:00 PM, Blogger Joecool18 said...

Good Post Imran!

That's right, the plans starts out with a job is bad, investing is bad, small businesses fail, why ask your dad or uncle about quixtar when the experts are showing you the plan now. There's a lot of bad mouthing about things and then they tell you that quixtar is your only hope.

I'm glad there is information like this blog to inform prospects that quixtar may not be the answer, so if they do sign up, at least they know the truth.

 
At 2/03/2006 11:39:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Get a Life.

 
At 2/04/2006 12:49:00 AM, Blogger Loser said...

Great advice, from Anonymous brave guy.

I know it takes balls to put your name on the net. Not judging ya ;)

 
At 2/07/2006 07:46:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Were you in quixtar? Because i've been in it for 5 months now and i think it works great. hate to say ur not professional, talking about balls and all, but i'm getting great results...and I'm a little unsure of your credibility. So I'm curious, since you clearly see something that I don't... were you ever in quixtar and if so, how long? And as far as putting your name on the internet...there's nothing brave about that. How many people have your name?, who's gonna find you and say something? But seriously though, it'd be nice to hear a response to the question...How long were you in quixtar? And considering the fact that your probably a highly respectable person with loads of knowledge and wisdom that the retired millionaires in quixtar don't have...i'm sure this time I'll have a mature response that doesn't involve balls or even boobies, or whatever kids talk about when they're away from mature adults.

 
At 2/07/2006 09:56:00 PM, Blogger Loser said...

Yet you still choose to stay anonymous....

It shouldn't take you more than 5 seconds to find my name, and a lot more. Seriously dude, I'll give you 5 bucks.

My whole experience, how long I was in and what happened is right here?

 
At 2/13/2006 02:19:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Quixtar is a pyramid scheme - I went to one of their conventions because I wanted to find out quickly what it was about to get to the nub of things cut to the chase. The convention was in my home town and I convinced my sponsor to pay for part of my expense. But when I got in there I was immediately confronted with a lot of people at tables selling "tools" for "the business"...I really didn't know what "the business" was. I asked about the products but was always directed back to the tapes and books (my sponsor encouraged me to get on "book of the month")...I wasn't born yesterday...this is a business where over-priced "business suppport materials" are hawked to newbies who are pumpped full of sunshine on "a dream"...it is NOT based on selling products (these are secondary to the"system"....at the end of the weekend we were also induced to join a Christian prayer (I am Muslim)...I just dropppped everything after that and told my sponsor "I'm not interested"

 
At 2/17/2006 03:12:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

This message is to "LOSER".

Just take a look at the name you chose for yourself. Your self-esteem does not allow you to see yourself as anything else but a "loser" then how would you know how to dream.

I'm sorry for the person who showed you the business. They must of mistaken you for an intelligent, sharp individual with a desire to excel in life. Your dreams are limited by your current self-image.

A word of advice to anyone reading "loser's" blog. Look at the business for your self. Quixtar is backed by the Better Business Bureau. Pyramids are illegal in the United Stated. The BBB would not back something illegal.

Second taking advice from people who are financially free is better than listening to someone who has nothing better to do than to put a legitimate business down without any experience. Attending one meeting does not qualify you to make any type of analysis.

Yes you have a right to your opinion but get your facts straight. For the person who said that they were forced into a Christian service is wrong. There are services offered for every religion at the conferences and no one is ever forced to attend the Christian service. Quixtar offers halal products for Muslims and Kosher products for the Jewish community.

These are some facts not opinions.

 
At 2/20/2006 10:27:00 PM, Blogger Loser said...

FACT: Quixtar is a negative sum game.

 
At 2/21/2006 06:09:00 PM, Anonymous rlaurens said...

"Quixtar is backed by the Better Business Bureau. Pyramids are illegal in the United Stated. The BBB would not back something illegal."
Ah... Is that why Enron is backed by BBB?
http://search.bbb.org/viewreport.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.data.bbb.org%2Fhouston.asp%3Fyid%3D2434&recordid=2434.0915&type=name

 
At 2/22/2006 06:28:00 PM, Blogger Joecool18 said...

Even is quixtar is legal, the FTC has not investigated the AMO/QMO's. That would be another story, IMO.

 
At 2/28/2006 11:55:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Quixtar's sales successes have landed it in rankings and articles documenting the power of e-commerce as a retailing channel. Quixtar has been the focus of a number of articles, including some of those listed below:

Internet Retailer- June 2005
Independent Business Owners (IBOs) powered by Quixtar helped the company once again reach its ranking as the top online retailer in the Health & Beauty category and 14th overall based on Web sales in Internet Retailer's annual Top 400 Guide to the Web.

Forbes- November 2004
Alticor, parent company of Quixtar, is ranked the 19th largest privately owned U.S.-based company, based on revenues.

MiTechNews.com- August 2004
Quixtar's fifth year in business, which ended August 31, 2004, posted record revenues of more than $1.1 billion, up $65 million from the previous year.

The Grand Rapids Press- August 2004
Quixtar celebrates its fifth anniversary with a record-setting single sales day of $12 million on August 31, 2004.

Stores- September 2003
Quixtar is ranked seventh on the National Retail Federation's list of the “Top 100 Internet Retailers“ based on sales.

The New York Times- July 2002
Among surprises in ComScore's rankings of the top online retailers was Quixtar, which finished 6th, outperforming Sears.com, Barnes & Noble.com and other higher profile dot-com companies.

Business 2.0- December 2001
Quixtar has been a leader in online Health & Beauty for years. In the “Numbers“ section of its December 2001 issue, Business 2.0 ranked Quixtar No. 1 in sales for the online Health & Beauty category, with 20.5% of the estimated $1.45 billion market segment. Based on the analysis of Nielsen/NetRatings and Harris Interactive eCommercePulse, Quixtar was ranked ahead of Drugstore.com (12.2%), Merck-Medco.com (5.7%), Avon.com (4.5%), and MaryKay.com (4.1%).

DLTtape News - December 1999
“Quixtar launched its business on September 1, 1999, and has quickly become an e-commerce leader, with sales of $518 million in its first year. Quixtar provides users in the U.S. and Canada an array of services ... .“

The Industry Standard- November 1999
Quixtar is one of the newest online merchants to offer an affiliate program with its Partner Stores.

The Industry Standard- October 1999
Quixtar's approach to e-commerce will be to blend “high tech“ and “high touch.“

Information Week- September 1999
Quixtar is among a new brand of retailers turning to the web.

Business 2.0- August 1999
An analyst from Forrester Research believes Quixtar's business model is a natural for the Internet.

 
At 3/06/2006 12:51:00 AM, Blogger Loser said...

What are the total number of Quixtar IBOs? Are they less or more than 2004? 1999, amway IBO in 1977?

 
At 3/07/2006 07:05:00 PM, Blogger perceptive said...

Anonymous said...
Quixtar's sales successes have landed it in rankings and articles documenting the power of e-commerce as a retailing channel


'Quixtar's Sales Success' has nothing to do with the "power of e-commerce as a retailing channel". It has everything to do with Quixtar IBOs blindly buying everything from Quixtar like robots with total disregard to price/quality/value, in the belief that someday that will make them rich! You are pathetic!

 
At 3/24/2006 07:23:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

An interesting conversation! To the dude who has been involved for 5 months... Keep going! I know to most it seems to good to be true, and that a catch must certainly exist... I've been building it part time for 3 years and have still failed to identify one. Instead, I have been able to replace a full-time income, and have created the capacity to support the option of my future wife not working a job. Do I bash college and jobs? Absolutely not. I am a senior in college right now, and find that there was value in that. However, I have been given the chance to create options, that not a soul in the world could negate through words of ignorance. Sorry, no negative to report here.

 
At 3/25/2006 01:21:00 PM, Blogger perceptive said...

ANON SAID>> I've been building it part time for 3 years and have still failed to identify one. Instead, I have been able to replace a full-time income, and have created the capacity to support the option of my future wife not working a job.

Oh, wow, I am impressed! Care to share with us, how much that replacement full-time income is? And is that "net" income after all your expenses?

 
At 4/04/2006 02:48:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

My wife and I were IBO's in the mid to late 90's. We were and are successful professionals in our late 50's. I quickly saw the light of the tools business but hung in there for my wife's benefit. You know what? I've got a Porsche, Rolex and a sailboat. I got them with my J O B!

 
At 4/04/2006 10:33:00 PM, Blogger Loser said...

Thank you sir for your comment.

 
At 4/11/2006 12:21:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

To start off....I am writing this anonymously only because I don't have an account on this website.

Hi Everyone. I would like to echo the person in college who has had succes by saying that I am also in college and have been in the business for less than a year and I am seeing great financial success. This is because I am investing as much time and energy into my busuiness as I can. One thing that people who are reading this blog have to understand is that the Quixtar business is made up of hundreds of teams all across American and the world. I have heard of teams that follow pretty unethical practices, and really give the business a bad name. So I would never think someone was lying abotu their bad experience. However, it is unfortunate that they were introduced to the business by such a bad or unethical team. But these teams do not represent every team out there. Someone mentioned ENRON in a previous comment. Well, the fact is that ENRON was brought down because of the actions of a few corrupt men, but those men did not represent the ethical standards for the entire workforce. The same way of thinking needs to be applied to this business. I have the pleasure of being in a great Quixtar team. A team that doesn't shove business tools down my throat. A team that is leading me to financial independence in an ethical way, and I have never felt forced to buy tools. I started buying more tools once I realized my business was growing and I needed them. The fact is that there is no other business opportunity out there right now that allows you to get in for as little as Quixtar does. And every type of franchise requires that you buy business tools eventually. So you can go out and buy a McDonalds for 1.2 million dollars or get into Quixtar and never spend that amount of money, but make a significant financial gain in the process. I am not saying that I want to be a millionare, but I do want to be in control of my finances and not rely on a job market to dictate my level of success. As far as the expenses go, the great thing about being in business for yourself is that all these expenses are tax write offs. This country is the most tax friendly to business owners so I get to reap those benefits. So you can stick with your J-O-B where they take out taxes before you even touch the money, or you can be an IBO and pay less taxes than the average Joe working a 9-5. The second option seems great to me. Hope this is useful info to someone out there.

 
At 4/11/2006 01:54:00 PM, Blogger Loser said...

The fact is that there is no other business opportunity out there right now that allows you to get in for as little as Quixtar does.

This is not a fact. This is B.S. taught form stage.

I have heard of teams that follow pretty unethical practices, and really give the business a bad name.
So how would you recommened a prospect to choose a good team? Define a good team.

And note: Higher you go, more reality you get to see. A 100 PVer won't be able to tell a difference.

I do want to be in control of my finances and not rely on a job market to dictate my level of success.

You've signed BSMAA. You know what you gave up? And you're talking about control?

you can be an IBO and pay less taxes than the average Joe working a 9-5
If you're losing $$,

For 2 years, you can write-off your expenses and pay less tax on your JOB. But at the net, you're not taking more to your bank. Think about it. You're just losing less.

After 2 years, if you're not making money, you can't write-off expenses as IRS calls it a "Hobby business".

But....why not make money and pay tax? That's how you are actually making money?

This tax advice is so creepy. Heard it all the time. It is sad really.

 
At 5/02/2006 12:57:00 PM, Blogger WISDOM_101 said...

I am sooo glad that I didn't listen to losers like you....or I wouldn't be financially free.....THROUGH QUIXTAR!

GET A LIFE.!! OH, YOU CAN'T...BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT A J.O.B.!!!!

 
At 5/03/2006 01:02:00 AM, Blogger Loser said...

So...army, police, fire fighters, doctor (one that delivered you), your president, don't have a life, and are losers.

Good to know.

 
At 5/03/2006 03:07:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Quixtar Sucks
All entries are based on my experiences and opinions."

Your words, not mine. May I ask though, how long have you been involved with the opportunity? Have you demonstrated a persistent and consistent attitude in building your business as outlined by the system? Answer to these questions straight without much deviant fud because that is what is being perceived by some on this forum. To the couple who are "professionals" in their fifties, no words but words of congratulations. If you are happy where you are, stay there but don't brag about your Porsche, your Rolex and a boat bought with money from a job. That is irrelevant for I can do so the same. This rather proves your cynicism towards this business model and that is fine. It is about the two of you and not me or others who are not necessarily sharing your values. Actually, I do not even intend on doing so now that I acknowledged that you are not a model I want to follow. My contract, 32400 Canadian $ job as a data analyst is not reason for me to be financially happy and yet my mother shockingly tells me that I must be happy with 2700 $ per month as it will cover my needs! Unbelievable! At 25 years old my mother tells me what it means to be financially free with 3000 $ per month and she is not. That is yet another strong reason for me to build this business because success is revenge as my team leader, once stated. By the way, your choice of nickname is either a pathetical joke or a sinister revelation. Either way, it makes no difference.

 
At 5/03/2006 03:12:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

One more thing; that is the annual gross amount, not the net. After taxes, I can pretty much acknowledge that I have one more reason to build my business.

 
At 5/07/2006 03:02:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You guys constantly talk in a negative way about a Quixtar company that does seem to have a viable marketing plan. You say stuff like at the meeting the speaker bad mouths small business/jobs/investing. However, that is not the whole truth. What the speaker does is say that jobs in the U.S. are being outsourced and that every year employees are made to work longer hours with less pay than previous years. If you look at the facts as stated by U.S. business review this is true when you take into account inflation. Also investing which does lead 80% of investors to lose an average of 90% of their invested income in stocks per year as also stated by Stock Exchange quotes proves that this is also fact. At the meeting the speaker also says that small businesses fail 8/10 times and that is also true which is stated by SBA, so now you tell me that is a put down from a speaker or just the FACTS! Yes Quixtar is not the solution for everyone which the speaker also says, but he also says this is an opportunity presented today which may or may not interest you. The speakers in functions have always talked about the tool income they do recieve. They talk about making profits for speaking and traveling and doing seminars/functions. Once again a fact openly stated. I don't seem to see the problem in this when motivational speakers like Jon Maxwell, Zig Ziglar, and even major speakers to talk about different subjects also get paid to talk on stage. Quixtar/BWW are not the problem here it could be that you don't have the time to do anything better or that everyone who is involved in talking badly about quixtar does not seem to have all their facts straight. Maybe, not all people become Diamonds in Quixtar, but not everyone puts the time and work in to acheive the Diamond level in the business. A lot of people who get started in Quixtar don't seem to grasp the idea that it is not a get rich quick scheme, but is a viable business that pays on volume just like any other business.

 
At 5/16/2006 12:53:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

QUIXTAR RUUUUUUUUUUULLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
YEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH

AND MY NAME IS GREG RATTAN MR. LOSER
YOU'RE AN EXTREMELY HILLARIOUS PERSON, THAT'S A GREAT QUALITY THAT YOU HAVE ABOUT YOU.
KEEP IT UP!

 
At 5/30/2006 01:27:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wonder how many of those "8/10" small businesses that fail are IBO's? Don't tell me that the majority of IBO's succeed.

I've heard and watched how the higher-ups recruit couples - they convince one spouse that they won't succeed if they can't get their better/worse half interested and working in "the business". When they sat down with my husband and I a few years back, to "show us the plan" (by the way, I hate that terminology - why can't it be a simple "presentation"?) they told us, as a couple, that when recruiting our own friends we would have to attack them as a couple.

If anyone from my former upline should read this, they will surely know who I am - and that's ok by me. They can always call me about it. However, I don't feel like being openly attacked by college students who don't even know what the real world has in store for them. It's much easier to recruit other students to buy and drink XS and diet supplements, than it is to recruit professional adults. I would be thrilled for anyone who does succeed, but don't say you weren't warned when your future co-workers and other adult friends snicker behind your back (calling you bulk toilet-paper or detergent boy, or taking a quick detour when they see you coming with your catalogs). Don't worry, your upline will still be your positive friends and family. They will love you until you stop producing for them. Then you won't ever hear from them again.


Oh, and my last thought is this: I know you think you are "financially free" when you hit a certain level. But none of these people walk away from the "business" when they hit the higher levels. They work their tails off well into their supposed retirements. So what if they go to Peter Island for meetings/vacations - I have taken some seriously extravaggant vacations myself. I just work hard and plan ahead --- 99% of Quixtar IBOs will never have that chance or hit that level because they spend all of their time planning for a windfall that will never happen, and are convinced it's the only way to get ahead.

 
At 5/30/2006 01:38:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"One thing that people who are reading this blog have to understand is that the Quixtar business is made up of hundreds of teams all across American and the world. I have heard of teams that follow pretty unethical practices, and really give the business a bad name. So I would never think someone was lying abotu their bad experience. However, it is unfortunate that they were introduced to the business by such a bad or unethical team. But these teams do not represent every team out there."


By the way, that's a recruiting tool to overcome the negative connotation that people have when they realize it's really Amway with a makeover. All of the uplines use that argument!

And people always fall for it because they want to believe in the dream. It's actually kind of sad...

I do agree that working for yourself is great, but when you work as an IBO - you don't work for yourself. Quixtar is a major corporation making lots and lots of money. When you are truly working for yourself, you don't have to attend meetings and bring recruits to them, every weekend.

The only thing I got out of Quixtar was the desire to work for myself. So I do, and it's great - but I'm not lining an upline's pockets.

I urge anyone considering Quixtar as a viable business model to give themselves a time limit, just as they would do when starting any small business. Know when you've invested too much, without return (don't forget to add in all of your "business" expenses). In most sales jobs, you are given a 6 month ramp-up period. They give you a small draw or salary, pay for your expenses and expect that you will be bringing in business and paying your way after about 6 months. So spending years building a business that pays for your toilet paper, detergent and an occasional night on the town does not equal success.

 
At 7/20/2006 03:59:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm an intern at Quixtar in Ada right now. This whole business sucks. I like reading about how much it sucks!

 
At 8/24/2006 12:24:00 AM, Anonymous Danwearsafez said...

Hey guys first of all I want to thank whoever it was who started the blog. I appreciate the time it took you because I am very glad to take another perspective on this. So thank you.

Recently someone gave me the plan about quixtar and I went into a spiral of pure crazed cultimania.

I just had a question to pose because I'm a bit confused. Why would the larger companies become involved in a pyramid scheme like this. Does Microsoft really play that much of a key role in this? They also give me the big names and I feel legitimate because well I just feel legitimate. Do they not care if their name becomes sodden on? Why did the larger companies become involved? Were they looking for a quick dollar? They knew that people would be succeptible? Also If I want to get out what's the best way to get out? I hate trying to get out and I've done it before on another thing but I guess I'm just a pyramid market.

Here's my dilemma. I know I have talent I have my own video blog on youtube called "five minute film school" check it out (sorry I just plugged myself.) Also if anyone Kate's me on this one from quixtar I'll just up and quit because that's scary) Anyway, I really just wanted quixtar
so I could have enough time and money to pursue my passion and I'm starting to realize that putting more time into something else doesn't really help me. Can you guys help me decide? Thank you so much.

 
At 9/02/2006 12:03:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

fucking moron TOOLS are OPTIONAL jackass! just b/c ur a hobbiest, and others build this professionally ... omfg nevermind... lets put it this way. TENS of THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE got into realistate in the past 2 years, yet ONLY HUNDREDS made money, and not only htat, they made GREAT MONEY! they worked it professionally... not as a hobby... just b/c you suck at life doesn't mean everyone has to fail at it... /dev/null

 
At 9/02/2006 12:11:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

This comment is by JASON FREGA (dr.frega@gmail.com)... just didn't feel like signing up for a login name... but not hiding my identity.

This blog poster seems ignorant to me. Just b/c he had a bad experience with some people in Quixtar doesn't mean we are all bad. That is like saying all blacks, or all jews are bad because you have a bad experience with a select few. I personally have been involved in Quixtar for just over 7 months. Ya it was a slow start, and yes I only made 9 bucks my first two months. I personally consistantly make over 600 a month now. Quixtar is not something for nothing, work in = reward out.

As far as quixtar bad mouthing jobs... lol... they simply don't! they say anyone can get rich at a job... it's just the hardest way to do it! Anyone who has any business sense what so ever will follow Robert T. Kiyasaki's principles... excuse spelling. But the important part is the philosophy, not how you spell it. Anyone who has any intelligence will not only get the facts from the Quixtar professionals, but they will also research themselves, such as the Better Business Bureau, or the statistics that have been built over 100s of years of US economics. Will this work for some lazzy ass who wants a free ride, or a lotto ticket type solution... NO! but with some hard work it will create a passive residual income. And so just b/c you don't own a yacht b/c you chose the harder way to live your life doesn't mean that you should bad mouth the Diamonds who donate millions a year to charities because they took the brilliant path. As a question to you... how much have you given back to society in any form what so ever?

 
At 9/02/2006 12:21:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

people may NOT ENJOY doing quixtar to get what they want, but duh thousands of people go to the hardware store every day to buy a DRILL, but those people don't want a DRILL, just like a lot of people don't want QUIXTAR. they want a HOLE, and a drill gets that. they way others WANT MONEY, the way quixtar brings it..


btw, no one in ADA is MORON ENOUGH to post like a few up... if some company takes you on as an internship (and as much as I used to be against MICROSOFT) you begin to like them... even if for simply paying you!

 
At 9/09/2006 12:06:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Because of the Amway affiliation, you have to really not care what people think about you in order to succeed in it.

What I don't like about the biz is the constant belittling of people who have "real jobs". I wonder what the diamond on stage would do if he had to go to the ER and there were no physicians on premises! Let's see how much he wishes that "loser who had a real job" would have shown up to work that day!

What the diamonds don't realize is they actually do have jobs, putting on suits and going to conferences and peddling books/tapes/cds and overpriced seminar tickets (BSMs). If the diamonds all of a sudden quit cheerleading and pushing BSMs, what would happen to their income?

 
At 9/21/2006 12:08:00 AM, Anonymous Chad said...

In 2005 Internet Retailer ranked Quixtar as the number one site in the health and beauty category. It was ranked 14th largest e-commerce site (for revenue) in the same survey. Quixtar sales for fiscal year 2003-2004 were over $1.1 billion with over $373 million paid out in bonuses and incentives. I'll repeat the last sentence: Quixtar sales for fiscal year 2003-2004 were over $1.1 billion with over $373 million paid out in bonuses and incentives. Just cuz you don't have ambition doesn't mean it doesn't work. I hope you enjoy rotting at work for the rest of your life. Just cuz you weren't willing to secure your future and was lazy, doesn't mean you have to flap your jaw. GO DIAMOND!!!

 
At 9/21/2006 10:53:00 AM, Blogger Loser said...

I hope you enjoy rotting at work for the rest of your life.

Assumption that I'll "rott", or "Work" for the rest of my life.

Just cuz you weren't willing to secure your future and was lazy, doesn't mean you have to flap your jaw

Another assumption that I wasn't "willing". And do you thing Diamond is "secure"? How about Diamonds who returned to work while wearing Diamond pin?

You can flap your jaw anyewhere. Leaders in this "Bidness" can flap jaw about anything, calling ppl with JOB losers, including policemen and firefighters who gave their lives. And no one else is allowed to speak? Very interesting. It just goes to show how brainwashed you are.

 
At 9/21/2006 01:36:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Chad, why don't you list how those 373 Million $$$$ were paid out. How many IBO's actually make any $$$$?

The average IBO made how much a month? $115??????? How much PV does $115 a month get you? How much do rallies, seminars and open meetings cost. Not to mention books, tapes and all that other junk?

You AmQuix people love to tapespeak half truths and twist everything into a positive light. Makes me wonder what they actually put in their XS and Double X vitamins.

WHAT A JOKE!

 
At 9/22/2006 02:01:00 AM, Anonymous Chad said...

I accidently found this site. It's sad to see how you have such a grudge on a way people want to make an income. I'm not trying to ruffle your feathers or anything but lighten up just a little bit. I mean, couldn't you be doing something a little more productive with your time than spending countless days on your computer trying to convince people that there is something in this world you disagree with and couldn't make any profit from but many others can? Like I said, I found this accidently and found most of the talk humorous so thought I'd throw something out. Good luck on telling the world on how you feel about something you couldn't achieve. That's all I have, you won't hear from me anymore, I have more important things to do than argue with someone who quits and is a drama queen. Good luck in life, what ever your name is.

 
At 9/25/2006 12:20:00 AM, Blogger AVISIONARYGIRL said...

HEY CHAD, I KNOW YOU ARE PROBABLY READING THIS. I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU THAT I'M WITH YOU.

AND FOR THE LOSER OH I'M SORRY, MR. LOSER, WHY DON'T YOU AND THE REST OF YOU WRITE ABOUT ALL THE OTHER MULTILEVEL BUSINESSES OUT THERE THAT ALSO SELL THINGS. LIKE XANGO, HERBALIFE, OMNILIFE, MELALEUCA, NONI, JAFRA, MARY KAY, AVON...IGI..ETC..OH I FORGOT NONI, IGI AND OTHERS DON'T EXIST ANYMORE,,AND YOU KNOW WHY? SCAMS....YEAH THOSE ARE THE REAL PYRAMIDS. YOU DON'T HAVE NOTHING TO SAY ABOUT THEM??? WHAT?? WHY DO YOU INSIST TELLING PEOPLE LIES ABOUT QUIXTAR.
ONE TRUTH IS..IS TOTALLY VOLUNTARY IF YOU WANT TO SELL PRODUCTS, CDS, OR BOOKS. IF YOU WANT TO GO TO THE EVENTS THAT'S ALSO VOLUNTARY. BUT IF YOU WANT TO GROW IN YOUR BUSINESS, WHO ARE YOU GOING TO FOLLOW..TV? CHURCH? NO...CORRECT? OH AND JUST FOR A QUICK THING...I DON'T HAVE A RELIGION...I DO BELIEVE THERE IS A SUPERIOR POWER OUT THERE.BUT.... WHY DO YOU INSIST THAT THIS IS A CULT??? SO YOU ARE TELLING ME THAT IF I LIGHT A CANDLE AND I SIT IN THE MIDDLE OF A ROAD(I'M CRAZY I'M COLERIC, I WOULD DO THAT)I AM RELIGIOUS AND STUFF? THAT I'M PRAYING OR WHAT EVER? OF COURSE NOT, JUST BECAUSE I LIGHT A CANDLE IT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING. THAT'S JUST SIMPLE WAX...SO STOP INSISTING THIS IS A CULT. (I'M REFERENCING TO THE VIDEO ON DATELINE)
NEXT TRUTH IS..YOU DO MAKE A LOT OF MONEY. BUT YOU HAVE TO WORK FOR IT!! WHO TOLD YOU, YOU DON'T HAVE TO? IS THE RULE MAN, NO ONE IS GOING TO DO IT FOR YOU, NEVER.
AND MANY SAY...OR I SHOULD WRITE...MANY GIVE EXCUSES..SAYING THAT "IT TAKES TOO LONG TO BECOME A DIAMOND OR BECOME FINANCIALLY FREE" NOW LET ME TELL YOU THIS..IN THE BUSINESS PLAN, AFTER YOU ARE REGISTERED AND READY TO START THE NEW ADVENTURE. YOUR UPLINE TELLS YOU THE BASICS, HOW MANY PEOPLE YOU NEED IN ORDER TO BECOME A DIAMOND. AND UNTIL YOU REGISTER THAT MUCH PEOPLE YOU WILL EVENTUALLY BECOME A DIAMOND. AND HOW LONG DO YOU THINK IS GOING TO TAKE? A WEEK? A MONTH? A YEAR? NO.
IF YOU START THE CORRECT WAY AND WITH A BIG DREAM. YES AND I'M WRITING...D-R-E-A-M..DIDN'T WALT DISNEY DREAM ABOUT DISNEYLAND? DIDN'T MR. HILTON DREAM ABOUT THE HILTON HOTELS?..DIDN'T YOUR FAVORITE SINGER DREAM OF BECOMING A SUPERSTAR? DIDN'T THE GUY WHO INVENTED THE TV DREAM ABOUT IT FIRST?
SO..I WAS SAYING.....WHEN YOU HAVE A DREAM AND START THE CORRECT WAY..READING BOOKS, LISTENING TO TAPES...OH AND THIS REMINDS ME...SOME OF US BUY MUSIC CD'S THAT WILL PROBABLY NEVER TEACH US NOTHING ON HOW TO BECOME FINANCIALLY FREE. OH AND WE WATCH SOAP OPERAS THAT MAKE US THINK UNCONCIESLY THAT OUR LIFE IS A LITTLE LESS(OR MORE) MISERABLE THAN THEIR LIFES. THAT'S NOT MAKING ME MAKE ANY MONEY AT ALL.
I WATCH TV WHEN I WANT TO. QUIXTAR DOESN'T TELL ME I SHOULD NOT WATCH IT. THE SPEAKERS SUGGEST NOT WATCHING IT BECAUSE OF WHAT I ALREADY TOLD YOU.
NOW...THE END OF THAT.
WHEN YOU ARE READY,AND HAVE ALL THE PEOPLE YOU NEED, ALL THOSE PEOPLE THAT YOU HELPED MAKE VISIONARIES, BECAUSE THEY SIMPLY COULDN'T DO IT ALONE, NOW AFTER 3-4-5 YEARS YOU WILL BECOME A DIAMOND. AND SO WHO CARES IF IT TAKES 5 OR 10 YEARS...MANY PEOPLE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO RETIRE FROM THEIR CURRENT JOBS IN 5 YEARS FROM NOW ANYWAYS!
TEHRE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT A TV IS. NEVER SEEN ONE. AND PROBABLY NEVER WILL. AND YOU ARE TELLING ME, AN IBO FROM THE #1 QUIXTAR, THAT I SHOULDN'T BE HELPING OTHER PEOPLE MAKE MONEY JUST BECAUSE YOU (AND YOU TOO)..SAY THAT IS BAD? NO DUDE, AT LEAST I'M MAKING PEOPLE BELIEVE IN THEMSELFES, MAKING THEM DREAM, TELLING THEM THEY DO "EXIST" BUT THEY DON'T KNOW..THAT THEY HAVE TO LIVE NOT SURVIVE..THAT THERE IS MORE EARTH TO EXPLORE..THAT THERE IS SOMEONE WHO CARES..THAT IF A PERSON MAKES A MISTAKE IS NOT EVERYBODY'S FAULT...THAT THEY ARE GENIOUSES SINCE THE DAY THEY WERE BORN....ARE YOU, LOSER....OR WHAT EVER NICKNAME THEY CALL YOU...ARE YOU TRYING TO TAKE THAT AWAY FROM ME?? I DON'T THINK SO. READ ALL THE FACTS FIRST...AND THEN TELL ME ABOUT IT.
OH AND I FORGOT TO MENTION...THE BOOKS THAT WE READ..ARE THE ONES THAT MANY PRESIDENTS READ, MANY SCHOLARS READ, MANY DOCTORS READ, MANY SUCCESSFUL PEOPLE READ....ARE YOU READING THEM???????
FISRT OF ALL, THE BOOKS ARE WRITTEN BY SUCCESFUL PEOPLE ANYWAYS. OH AND REMEMBER THAT PRHASE...WINNERS WRITE HISTORY.....AND YOU DEFINATELY KNOW THE REST OF THE SENTENCE.

 
At 9/25/2006 10:47:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey visonarygirl, you talk about books that scholars, presidens and doctors read? Do you read? It's obvious you have no idea how to spell. You must not be very eduacted as your empty ramblings just wasted about 5 minutes of my time.

How many different thoughts did you throw in one paragraph?
You talk of books, rallies, seminars and tapes being voluntary, YET, you are told you will NOT succeed without them.
They tell you success is voluntary HAHAHAHAHAHA! Yeah ok.

People don't leave this joke of a (Cough! Cough! "Business") because they're "quitters". They leave because they make NO money. Of course some people are the exception to the rule but only 1 in 10,000 go diamond hell, only 1 in 2,400 even make platinum. It has nothing to do with being quitters and everything to do with people LOSING money every month!
Sorry, I'd rather be "broke" and my "9 to 5" earning a paycheck every week, rather than spending $200- $500 every month to make $50.

LOL. I have to laugh at the refernces to Walt Disney and Mr. Hilton. How can you make a comparison between them and Quixtar. These guys didn't build their respective businesses by telling people "By from yourself and teach others to do the same"

You talk about making people beilieve in "themselfes" (correctly spelled themselves), how is this possible? Because you tell them to dream of going "diamond" and that "They can do it if they believe"? LOL Save that garbage. If it was so easy EVERYONE would be successful not only a handful.

Just keep drinking the kool-aid. I'm sure YOU will "go diamond" and "change the world" HAHAHAHAHAHA! Just keep reading your books and listening to your mind-warping tapes. Forget about making that mortgage payment, or paying that electric bill. Just live in your car and eat nothing but PB&J sandwiches, like so many of the diamonds claim they did.

You write "Winners write history"? What have you written? I guess that makes you a loser too huh? I love the way the word "loser" is thrown around the AmQuix cult. As if, everyone who decides AmQuix is joke or works a full time job is a "loser". Sorry the biggest losers I see are AmQuix bots that push their beliefs and half turths on unassuming people. Doing anything to make them "Believe" they need Quixtar to "break free" from their "loser" job.

Answer me this. If Quixtar is such a reputable "business" why is when I'm "prospected" the AmQuix bots come at me with "I have a great business opportunity" or "I own my own online business" or my favorite "I'm in private franchising"? Why not just come out and say "Hello, my name is Joe, I am in Quixtar. Would you like to make money by selling vitamins, soap and energy drinks to yourself and then teach others to do the same"? Because after all that's what you do.

After reading all your incoherent babbling, I've come to the conclusion that perhaps instead of Quixtar you should try and higher your education. Oh wait, I forgot people that go to college are "losers" yet almost all the ridiculous success stories you hear are from "EX" doctors, lawyers, accountants, engineers etc. Obviously those people never went to college either or they'd be known as "losers" too.

You and AmQuix are a JOKE! Thanks for the laugh

 
At 9/25/2006 02:12:00 PM, Anonymous avisionarygirl said...

WHAT? WHAT EDUCATION DID YOU HAVE? IS OBVIOUSLY THAT YOU DIDN'T HAVE MUCH BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT WHAT YOU NEED TO DO IN ORDER TO HAVE A PROSPER LIFE. I'M NOT SAYING THAT YOU HAVE TO DO IT WITH QUIXTAR...OH NO..BUT A "JOB" DOESN'T GET YOU THERE. BUT DO WHAT EVER YOU WANT TO DO A STOP WRITING AND TALKING GARBAGE ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE WHO JUST WANT TO BE BETTER AND PROSPER IN LIFE. WHAT'S WRONG WITH THAT? IF THE BIZ IS BAD...DON'T YOU THINK THAT THE AUTHORITIES WOULD DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT ALREADY? IT HAS MORE THAN 40 YEARS OF EXISTANCE...10 YEARS OF TECHNOLOGY AHEAD OF ALL OTHER BUSINESSES. AND FOR THE LAST TIME, THIS IS NOT A CULT. LOVING EACH OTHER AND SHOWING IT THE MANY WAYS WE DO DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE ARE FULL OF RELIGION STUFF. AND ISN'T PEACE AND LOVE WHAT THIS WORLD NEEDS?? OF COURSE YES MORE THAN ANYTHING. HATE AND LOVE MAKE THIS WORLD GO AROUND....WE SIMPLY CHOOSE LOVE...WHAT'S WRONG WITH THAT? GET THE FULL FACTS THE
F-U-L-L FACTS AND THEN YOU WILL SEE THE REAL THING.
OH AND FOR MY SPELLING...WHO CARES!! IT IS NOT MY FIRST LANGUAGE ANYWAYS...I HAD TO LEARN IT...YOU SEE...I MADE HISTORY ALREADY..BUT YOU JUST DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA OF WHAT IS YET TO COME.

 
At 9/25/2006 03:34:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Listen to yourself. Loving each other and showing it? I'll tell you what, tell your upline and team you're going to quit Quixtar and see how much they love you then.

I'd much rather have true friends who are there for me through thick and thin, not just out to make a buck off of me. I GUARANTEE the people you met in this 'business' would NEVER speak to you again if you walked. Ya see it's not about people caring for or being theer for people. Quixtar is about "If you can make me some extra money I'll be your friend but if you choose to leave, we will not associate with you becaue you're a "LOSER".

10 years ahead of all other businesses? How do you figure? ANd how do you figure my job doesn't "get me there"? I own a large house (fully paid for I might add), drive a nice car, have a fantastic woman whom I'm about to marry, and have a great group of friends and family who would support NO MATTER WHAT DECISIONS I MAKE! What more could anyone ask for? Not to mention I can tell people what I do for a living, with pride and no longer do I say, with embarassment "I'm in Q*"
Ya see Quixtar is about the almighty DOLLAR! I'll say this about Q* it certainly made me realize how lucky I am to have the things I do, and that money certainly isn't everything, so I thank them for that.

By the way, you going to answer my question? If Quixtar is such a reputable "business" why is when I'm "prospected" the AmQuix bots come at me with "I have a great business opportunity" or "I own my own online business" or my favorite "I'm in private franchising"? Why not just come out and say "Hello, my name is Joe, I am in Quixtar. Would you like to make money by selling vitamins, soap and energy drinks to yourself and then teach others to do the same"? Because after all that's what you do.

Also, I'm not talking negatively about many of the people in Q* I'm just trying to do my part to keep people from making the same mistake and throwing money down the drain like I did.

 
At 9/25/2006 05:30:00 PM, Anonymous AVISIONARYGIRL said...

BECAUSE WE ARE ALL DIFFERENT AND WE HAVE DIFERENT STRATEGIES ON HOW TO MENTION THE BUSINESS TO PEOPLE. ARE YOU HAPPY NOW?

OH AND BY THE WAY...GOOD FOR YOU..YOU HAVE EVERYTHING YOU NEED..GO HELP OTHERS DO THE SAME.

 
At 9/26/2006 09:51:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

People need to help themselves. I love helping other people but I don't help them in order to help myself. That's what Q* is all about.
"I'll help you succeed because it means more money for me".

I told you, leave Q* and see how many of your "team members" or "Upline" try and help you with anything. Hell, see if they ever talk to you again. You Q* people talk about "friends" in the business. I don't call people like that "friends". They are LEACHES! Sucking your bank account dry for their own greedy gain.

Will you ever answer my question as to why people "prospecting" never just come out and say "I'm in Q*"? Instead they use the half truths they learn from tapes, seminars, ..... Just answer that question for me.

 
At 9/26/2006 12:02:00 PM, Anonymous avisionarygirl said...

BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE YOU TALK NEGATIVELY ABOUT THE BIZ THAT WHEN WE SAY...PRONOUNCE "QUIXTAR" THEY AUTOMATICALLY THINK...OH NO IT'S BAD MY FRIEND TOLD ME IS BAD BLAH BLAH BLAH...SO WE FIRST TAKE IT SLOWLY GIVE THEM THE FACTS AND THEN DO WHAT EVER WE WANT TO DO NEXT. WE HAVE DIFERENT WAYS OF CONTACTING PEOPLE. DON'T YOU GET THAT??

 
At 9/26/2006 02:35:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

No I'm not happy with that "tape speak". Strategy's? You mean different lying techniques?
It's not "private franchising" nor is it "I own my business" etc.

Sugar coat it however you want but in the end, IT'S QUIXTAR or MULTI LEVEL MARKETING. Just come out and say it.

As far as helping other people, I posted this above and I'll post it here. This time read it;

I love helping other people but I don't help them in order to help myself. That's what Q* is all about.
"I'll help you succeed because it means more money for me".

 
At 9/26/2006 05:21:00 PM, Anonymous avisionarygirl said...

oh s#@!!! I'LL HAVE TO QUIT MY JOB THEN...I'M MAKING MY BOSS RICHER AND RICHER! OH NO! THANKS FOR THE ADVICE MAN

 
At 9/26/2006 05:43:00 PM, Blogger Loser said...

Talking in caps is rude. It means you are yelling.

And you made some claim about education?

 
At 9/27/2006 08:35:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey visonarygirl, will you quit with your tapespeak already? You don't make your boss richer and richer. His CUSTOMERS make him money, not his employees. His employees COST him money.
Two things IBO'S don't have, actually 3. 1) Customers 2) employees and probably, most importantly, 3)COMMON SENSE!

At least your boss PAYS you for your time, something Qcult doesn't do. Instead you PAY Q* for your time. How exactly does that work?
Will you just step back, take a deep breath and THINK for one second. Use your mind for one second and figure out how you're in a good situation when you pay upwards of $500 on a weekend to listen to people speak?

Hell, come on over to neighborhood. I'll speak all kinds of positive thoughts and motivate you if you wanna give me $500. Jeez I'll give you a break, I'll only charge you $350.

 
At 9/27/2006 08:49:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Staying with that subject, let's break this down a bit.

In order to get 100PV a month you have to spend about $250 (modest estimate) a month or $3,000 a year. Open meetings 4 times a month $4 ($10 if there's a diamond speaking) we'll say $600 a year. Rallies 4 times a year at $500 a pop (not including hotel) $2,000 a year. Seminars at $50 a pop (we'll say once every other month) $300 a year. Standing book and tape order $60 a month or $720 a year. CommuniKate $500 a year? (not sure on that one) so let's see how much does that total?
$7620 a year. The average IBO makes $1,400 a year so on the average an IBO, that follows everything his or her upline says is losing over $6,000 a year?
What a concept!

Ya see, I own my company. When my employees get me new customers they get a % of the net sales. They are rewarded for their hard work. But I NEVER make them use their own money to get their bonus checks, unlike Q*.
So how anyone can come and spout off about how a "J.O.B" is a bad thing is really out of their mind.

At least working a "J.O.B" people KNOW their getting paid and PROFITING. IBO's in Q* aren't so sure

 
At 9/27/2006 01:57:00 PM, Anonymous avisionarygirl said...

hahahaha

 
At 9/27/2006 02:15:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nice comeback visionary girl. What's wrong, you have no more tapespeak to spout of to me with?

Once you snap out of that "dream" world you're living in, you'll thank us for trying to help you

 
At 9/29/2006 05:43:00 PM, Anonymous AVISIONARYGIRL said...

"YOU COULD TRAVEL ALL OVER THE WORLD AND YOU WILL NEVER FIND A STATUE OF A CRITIC"

"LET THE MEDIOCRE WORRY ABOUT YOUR MISTAKES, YOU WORRY ABOUT YOUR PROFITS"

"CRITISISM IS EASY...ART IS DIFICULT"

"WHEN A MAN FLYES HIGHER, HE SEEMS TO APPEAR LITTLE TO THE ONES WHO DON'T KNOW HOW TO FLY"

"A HIENA CAN LAUGH ALL SHE WANTS, BUT IT WILL NEVER MAKE THE STARS TREMBLE"

"ENVY IS COWARSNESS; PROPER OF THE WEAK"

 
At 10/17/2006 03:33:00 PM, Anonymous AVISIONARYGIRL said...

Did You Know...
Amway has 535 patents registered around the world, with 224 in the United States.
The NUTRILITE™ brand is the only global vitamin and mineral brand that grows, harvests, and processes plants for use in its supplements on its own certified-organic farms.
The ARTISTRY™ brand is one of the world's leading, prestige brands of facial skin care and colour cosmetics.
Amway is the world's number 1 direct seller of point-of-use water treatment systems. Since 1984, Amway has sold more than 3.5 million water treatment systems worldwide.
If you lined up all the GLISTER™ toothpaste boxes sold in 2003, they would stretch from New York City to London.
SATINIQUE™ hair care products repair, strengthen and protect in just one use. They contain the Ceramide Infusion System, which actually reverses damage done to hair by replacing the lost ceramide in the hair shaft.
The NUTRILITE brand, created by Carl Rehnborg in 1934, was the first brand of multivitamins in the United States. NUTRILITE high quality vitamins are the only supplements that have been offered continuously for 70 years.
Amway was an early innovator of biodegradable surfactants in cleaning products, including the line of SA8 detergents.
ARTISTRY scientists use technology originally developed by NASA to map skin surface and technology developed for military night vision (infrared thermography) to test for skin irritation and product performance.
In one hour of production, Amway's powder manufacturing plant (Home Care powdered products) in Ada, Michigan, fills over 10,680 cartons and 2,900 bottles. And in that same time period, 7,200 bars of soap are also produced.

 
At 10/18/2006 11:05:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

All of these Quixtar losers talk about how great it is and how they have bugets and invest in their future. Wake up idot, you have to save your money for all the expenses of the tapesant etc... Your really wasting your money. Anyone trying to join Quixtar now is so far down the line its imposible to make anything. I guess easy to lose alot though.

 
At 10/18/2006 11:05:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

All of these Quixtar losers talk about how great it is and how they have bugets and invest in their future. Wake up idot, you have to save your money for all the expenses of the tapesant etc... Your really wasting your money. Anyone trying to join Quixtar now is so far down the line its imposible to make anything. I guess easy to lose alot though.

 
At 10/18/2006 08:49:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was recently shown the plan at a starbucks coffe shop and thought the business has potential.

Many friends of mine are against the business for various reasons presented on numerous websites on the web but one reason to avoid quixtar was odd.

I am going to a three day function in a few weeks and was wondering if I should take my girl friend. Does Quixtar offer sex toys and condoms through its web affiliates or core company. I was told that many Quixtar uplines advocate wife swapping and other forms of sexual depravity at higher levels of the business.

 
At 10/19/2006 12:34:00 AM, Blogger Loser said...

I have no idea of wife swapping, and as much as I hate Quixtar, I very much doubt that.

Sexual depravity? no idea. I was sleep deprived, yes. Slept while driving a result ;)

Sex Toy, well, nothing wrong with that, IMO.

 
At 10/19/2006 05:51:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wife Swapper,

I don't recommend you take your girlfriend to any Quixtar event. My friend has been involved in Quixtar for about seven months and I along with his wife think he is crazy for investing time and money in this bullshit scheme but he thinks it will work. He goes through these crazy money making phases and usually surfaces from the bullshit sooner or later.

However, I have discovered a great thing about Quixtar! The business model is bogus but you can get some hot chicks at Quixtar events especially the weekend "Wet Dream Seminars."

There are many hot young post high-school students who have been brain washed to believe a college education is a waste of time and resources; any person or business that advocates this line of thought is smoking some heavy doses of crack and usually suffers from a inferiority complex.

These chicks get all dressed up in their business attire and swoon over any one on stage spewing lifestyles of the top 1% of Americans.

My friend invites me to all these Quixtar events and I score more often than 50cent in a night club. There is so much trouser bobbing going on in the parking lot, restrooms, coat rooms etc it is a single dudes dream!

What I really enjoy about the Quixtar events are seducing the MILFs. The 30-35 year old quixtar wives (milfs) I like the most because they usually are neglected by theirr husbands because their husbands are so engrossed in thier CD's, building the business, showing the plan instead of thier magic stick that they don't have time to please their wives in that special need department.

I met this one girl named stacy (blond 32) and we had the best time in her hotel room while her dumb ass husband was ushering for some Quixtar drone on stage. Stacy definitely earned her PV/BV during that event. I shall keep this comment clean but I highly recommend you pursue chicks at quixtar events. I have had more conquest at these events than I did during my college fraternity years. I target the MILFs that have a husband at one of the pin levels because thier husbands by this time are so busy with the quixtar bullshit the wives are craving any attention and at that age a special type of attention is at the top of the list. I am working on publishing a web book guide on how to read the signs of a Quixtar suffering milf and more importantly how to score!

Thank You Rich Devos...

 
At 1/28/2007 06:03:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm sorry for the people who actually legitamatly do well in Quixtar and are good people but for the others on here that say things like well have fun with your "job," you're just adding to Quixtar's stigma.

What Quixtar means by "this business is not for everyone" is that most people will fail. The difference is I rather be wasting my time on a job that's more likely to pay off in the long run then quick financial gain. Sadly there is no quick financial gain in Quixtar and no guarentee for the future.

I have little problem with Quixtar in general, just people who degrade others who decided that Quixtar is not the greatest thing ever.

PS: A little pet-peeve: Quixtar loses credability IMO when they start trying to compare themselves to McDonalds' structure. I've also heard people inside Quixtar say they will eventually put Walmart out of business. Quixtar's product sales are just a byproduct of the real objective- recruit people. Products are their coverup. The chances of Quixtar directly puting Walmart out of business is the same as me putting Walmart out of business. Unless you think very highly of a random guy on the internet, I think you know the logical answer to that one.

 
At 2/08/2007 06:59:00 PM, Anonymous Ray Thomas said...

A "Little Known Fact"...

The average person on the street
cannot or does not make the distinction between a Quixtar IBO and Quixtar Corporation.

Sadly... Quixtar Corporation gets blamed for the bad behavior of some Independent Quixtar IBO's.

Quixtar Corporation is one of the finest privately owned companies in our country.

Some of the Independent IBO Organizations have members that do things that are improper and sometimes illegal. This is who the average guy on the street comes in contact with. Very few people have ever been to an event held by Quixtar Corporate.

They HAVE attended Meetings and Rallies held by various Independent IBO Organizations. Two different worlds entirely!

If anything - Quixtar Corporation needs to launch a public campaign that informs people on the differences.

Example: If you purchase a Ford from a local dealer that overcharges you or treats you badly somehow... do you now say Ford Motor Corporation is a scam, or do you go after and blame the local dealer? Of course you blame the local dealer. The same thinking applies to Quixtar.

This "mass confusion" is truly a public relations tragedy.

- Ray Thomas

 
At 2/28/2007 01:59:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good post Imran. Keep churning out there dirty secrets and lets put them out of business. I have been a loser like you and quite happy with my life now after quitting quixtar and the annoying pests called uplines and crosslines. One suggestion I have is that we should post all the dirty quixtar IBO's one liners, ice breakers on this site, so that everyone knows about it.

 
At 4/28/2007 01:22:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Loser",

I truly appreciate your candid, honest depiction of Quixtar. I was approached at work by 2 colleagues about an "awesome" internet business. I have a web business, so I was naturally interested in hearing what they had to say.

One told me to give him an hour of my time after work, but I have not yet met with him. I asked the other guy to tell me "in a nutshell" what the business is. He said he can't talk to me anymore because the other guy already has me (RED FLAG).

So the responsible guy gives me a cd to listen to called "TEAM" by Chris someone. I listened to the cd and like any other business-minded person.. I was intrigued. However, I decided to investigate further before sitting down with any serious discussion with my colleague. I had to do some digging just to find fragments of what this business was until I pinpointed Quixtar.

Quixtar evidently is not interested in damage control, or it would be throwing some dollars at the internet to counter all the negative publicity it receives. (obviously your blog is not excluded)

The mere secrecy and mystique of the business from the outside is enough to steer me away. Had I known from the start that it was an MLM, I wouldn't have even listened to the cd.

Just wanted to say "thanks" for the education.

Scott

 
At 12/13/2007 08:03:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

YEAH FUCK QUIXTAR, I HOPE YOU FAKES IN QUIXTAR WHO CLAIM TO BE RICH EAT SHIT AND DIE. I STARTED MY OWN SMALL BUSINESS AND I MAKE MORE THEN MOST OF YOU FUCKS, AND I KNOW BECAUSE I TRIED YOUR LITTLE PYRAMID SCHEME AND IT PUT ME IN DEBT, AND I DID EVERYTHING EXACTLY THE WAY I WAS TOLD. SO FUCK QUIXTAR IF YOU SUPPORT IT THEN DO ME A FAVOR AND INVEST AS MUCH MONEY AS YOU CAN INTO IT. IN FACT PUT EVERYTHING INTO IT AND PLEASE CUT THE PEOPLE WHO HATE IT OUT OF YOUR LIVES. I KNOW YOU WILL.

 
At 3/05/2008 09:56:00 PM, Anonymous Raj Patel said...

LMFAO.

You guys make me laugh so much.

I didn't even bother to waste my time to read so much negative about such an amazing opportunity.

My parents have been Quixtar IBOs for about 16.5 years, and I'm almost 17 now.

I can truly say that the lifestyle and values that this business has given our family are INCREDIBLE. Our family always stands out. We could have NEVER become the family we are without this business. We could have NEVER lived the lifestyle we are living right now.

And when I turned 16, I also became an IBO. I don't think that most parents would let their own children do something that they knew was really bad or illegal.

You can all think and say what ever you want, but here's the deal. With or without all of you out there who think Quixtar is bad and talk negative about it, Quixtar (Soon to be Amway Global) is moving on.

The more that people are learning about the company, and its products and services, the more that people are loving it.

Anything good and moving on the fast track toward accomplishment ALWAYS has people who talk negative about it. Yet, it never stops anyone. So everyone out there that has hope for Quixtar, or even the tiniest belief in it, keep it up.

 
At 4/07/2008 11:09:00 PM, Blogger Aline said...

Well, I started quixtar about 4 months ago. I dont have that much experience in the business yet, and it does have a slow start, but ill tell all of you bad mouths out there, Quixtar isnt all about QUIXTAR! "Loser" boy over there started this blog with "I'm a diamond", he's not cracking on Quixtar, his attempting to make fun of LTD. Well, I dont care what you have to say, the LTD tam has become a second family for me. How mny people do you know "loser boy" that will drive 12 hours just to be by your side while your home burns to the ground? I have family members who don't remember who I am but teamates from LTD who stood by me in hard times. So for any one out there reading this stupidy of a blog, let me just tell you this, more than 60K people are part of this bzness opportunity. Not everyone wannts to walk against the masses(people with JOBS) but guess what?Ghandi didnt either...Neither did Martin Luther King, or Mother Theresa, or any one in history who's ever been great. SoOo, when ill wave past the "losers" out there when i reach the top, cuz this business system works. They're not chasing the dollar, they put more important things first, like GOD. Something loser boy probably doesnt know much about, bcuz if you have the time to sit there and bad mouth something just because your feeble brain and lazy self wasnt able to succeed doesnt mean everyone in the world is like you. Besides tell me how many businesses out there will take the time to sit and mentor you on how to run your own businesS??? Everyone in the world just wants to run over everyone else and get to the top. SO if you have a mind of your own, you wont take advice from an idiot who calls himself a "loser" saving us time to do it for him.

 
At 7/24/2008 02:32:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am involved in quixtar for last 3 months. I am part of book of the month and in last 3 months I have read 6 books which has changed my outlook about my life. believe me I have never read any personnel development books earlier even though I bought few of them. So for me Quixtar association guided me to read books.. Note these books has nothing to do with quixtar. But quixtar motivated me to read all these books which has changed my life. Now I am doing much better at my work. Those who talk negative about quixtar please read books like ' The magic of thinking big by David J Schwartz PH.D' and I am sure you will stop talking negative about anything in the world. Why do you need to build negative energy with in you by talking negative about something....Come on guys, think positive, act positive and help others and live your life to fullest.

 
At 2/04/2009 07:56:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

my brothers mom joined quixtar 2 years ago and spends all her time at those stupid cult seminars she thinks shes going to be "DIAMOND" and buy a house in alittle bit, but basically everyone avoids her and her CONSTANT sales pitches like the plague, and I basically cannot STAND HER NOW. QUIXTAR, THE CULT!

 
At 4/05/2009 03:26:00 PM, Anonymous LTD/ Quixtar is a scam said...

My girlfriend is in quixtar, she joined before i met her and her brother is her sponsor. it seems to me that she does it more to be a part of something more than to "live the Dream". she has told me before that she likes it for other reasons than money that i wouldn't understand. so i asked what those reasons were and she told me it was the people, and she considers them her friends. i though to my self what kind of friends charge you hundreds of dollars for conventions and try to make money off of you all the time. I have friends but when we hang out i don't have to pay money to see them. I have also heard from her brother that business mentoring and advice is a big part of it also. one thing i will tell anyone that ever takes advice from someone, Quixtar member or not> make sure the advice/mentoring you are receiving is from a person that has your best interests in mind, and isn't giving you advice to benefit themselves from the decisions you make...her brother has no business experience, no sails experience, and isn't even making half the money i am with his job and quixtar so when he offered t mentor me i was very reluctant to say the least he is 20 years old and im 23. there's something about getting advice from someone with no wisdom or credentials, and the only things he knows in life are the things that have been told to him by his uplines. in the real business i run when a person is involved in something and gives you advice on a decision you are making that could affect theirs we consider that a "conflict of interest".anyone involved in this i hope takes into consideration how sensceer the advice the are receiving is and if its really in their best interest to continue with the program. i really wish my girlfriend would get out of "LTD"/ quixtar. i think it is the biggest waste of time and money.i just hope she figures that out before she spends some of the funnest years of her life going to meetings and with her so called friends. She is a great person and i wished she relieze that a great personalty and anyone out there would be honored to have her as a friend. i think its more of a self esteem issue for a lot of the members of LTD/Quixtar. When i was in high school we were shown a movie called "the WAVE" it explained the need of some people to feel accepted and be a part of something and how that could make ignore reason and common sence, in order to feel accepted. It also showed how that could lead to bad decisions and not standing up for what you believe in. It tells about cults and groups and how some people want to take advantage of people that feel alone and outcasts and how it leads to cults and other groups where people are used. you see how chants and rallies. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVRXXbU-z7U

 
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