Monday, August 15, 2005

Lying Liars and..Fair and Balanced look at Jim Reed

Quixtar / Amway boards and Jim Reed go together. In my opinion he's not good for the boards. Here are my observations about him.

Jim Reed the Joker

Well, he is funny. That's the only thing I like about him. Despite his nuttiness, I consider him a friend for that. And if I don’t post for few days, he misses me :) Hopefully in a non gay way.

Jim Reed the Troll

In my opinion he's a forum troll. Others think it too. All he say is:

People don't fail at amway because they didn't work hard. That's not why they fail. They fail because they joined a pyramid where the average net profit is below zero. They didn't know this, and even when they leave most still don't know it, but as the financial reality catches up with them, one way or another they quit and walk away with their losses. It couldn't be any other way.

I agree with it, almost. That's not the problem. "Root of the problem" is repetition. You go to quixtarBlog Forum, MLM Survivor club, What about Quixtar, nothing else. He's stuck on "The pyramid is negative" a.k.a TPIN, MLB (Million lost Billions) and amway was a bad idea from the start. Any one involved is to be "blamed". Specially the ones who made money as they made money from the losses of the others. If some one do MLM honestly, he's providing the cover to the scam.

He never provides any link or data, except pasting saved conversations and platinum index numbers from

And that's pretty much it. He keeps "blaming" any one he wants, is answered 1000 times and claimed he was never answered. Soon he monopolizes the board and nothing else could be discussed. That's what he wants, attention. When told not to do so, he replies:

I think this needs to be said, and maybe even repeated if people don't want to listen, even if it means being removed from every one of the boards, that would be OK if it happens because it would mean this monkey is off my back and it doesn't have to be said any more.

He can troll any topic, e.g. Canada. But he likes Quixtar, errr Amway.

Jim Reed the Character Assassin

Jim has a "thing" for a poaster "Deb" a.k.a "gimpymommi". She is grand daughter of Walter Bass, built a huge retailing business, didn't participate in tool scam. Dexter Yager is deep in their downline.

Jim insults her family quite often, saying that they "benefited" from "pyramid" and must be "blamed". Here is explanation from Deb that why it is character assassination. It gets worse, and includes stalking and name calling.

Right, I am getting your family confused again. It is your father who is the ambot, isn't it?

And now he blaming her the Baboon Brief board. Deb was dragged to What About Quixtar and about to there as well. Just to defend herself from character assassination. I'll be soon publishing a report on Walter Bass, with her help to clarify it further. Follow above links, he has been answered many times.

Jim Reed the Conspiracy Theorist

The guy is paranoid, and doesn't trust any one. Say some thing not bashing MLM, you are "still under the spell". He'll start on any one. Won't even trust the site admins. Here is gem. He accused two posters to be same person, despite site admin denying it. Both of them criticized on tool scam, and hence Jim concluded they were from the "forces of amway"!!!

It is also one of his theories. If you say any thing bad about tools or Kingpins, you are letting amway get away hence you are in this conspiracy theory. Good stuff there.

Also, he kept on insisting he "debated Bill Britt".

How to handle him

Admins: If you want discussion to the point, ban him. He was banned from quixtarBlog Forum and MLM Survivor for good reason. Moderators were too easy on him. Trust me!

If you just want more posts, let him stay. He won't let you down.

Posters: Ignore him. If you think you can convince him, you can't. All he wants is a response from you. Then he'll drag it to pages. If you want to build up your post count, just talk to Jim!

What does he need?

More cowbell, and mild spankning. He said he has some troubles with his wife. I hope he works them out. Here is another example of craziness.

I believe he needs professional help.

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At 8/14/2005 11:30:00 PM, Blogger David Robison said...

I sure hope you sent Jim a copy of this entry.

Although he probably won't comment, because a blog is not a medium he can monopolize.

At 8/15/2005 02:10:00 AM, Blogger Loser said...

I posted it on QBlog forum, Lying Liars and..Fair and Balanced look at Amway thread, and in the Baboon forum. He'll read it there ;) And board members too, so they'll know.

Dave, how much time you, lawDawg, QBlog and Deb have wasted on him? This could be collection of evidence and may save us time in future. For future boards ;)

Or if some one decides to sue him, they don't have to research much ;)

At 8/15/2005 02:23:00 AM, Blogger David Robison said...

Well, I have quit responding to him for the most part, there are times when he says something so asinine I can't help myself.

Have you noticed how he is posting to old threads at WAQ, just to get a response? If everyone ignores him there, maybe he'll go away.

At 8/15/2005 02:34:00 AM, Blogger Loser said...

WAQ is not working.

His post will keep getting crazier untill some one responds. Or he'll post some thing real nasty about Deb.

I tried to ignore him too, but he's good!

At 8/15/2005 09:06:00 AM, Blogger lawDawg said...

It gets really bizarre if you start ignoring him. He'll start posting conversations with himself - one post after another - as though he were carrying on a dialogue with nobody in particular.

This post in particular shows what a fruit loop he is:

"I think this needs to be said, and maybe even repeated if people don't want to listen, even if it means being removed from every one of the boards, that would be OK if it happens because it would mean this monkey is off my back and it doesn't have to be said any more."

At 8/15/2005 10:32:00 AM, Blogger Loser said...

Yup, I also quoted same post in my post. It clearly shows he

has lost it
is crazy and / or

At 8/15/2005 03:22:00 PM, Blogger lawDawg said...

D'oh, yeah, I read that. By the time I got to the end of my comment I forgot that I'd read it in your post, too. Jim's not the only one who's losing it I guess.


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